Ron DeSantis (R) - Country Hungry for New Blood

[JoeMorgue]

Short of making it illegal to not get Covid and die I don't know how much more on the diseases side they could really get.

 

[Segnosaur]

At this point if I hear a knock at my door, open it, only to see Ron DeSantis standing there and before I can ask him what the hell he wants he sprays me in the face with concentrated essence of Covid, then knees me in the crotch before walking off I wouldn't be surprised.

Don't be silly.

He would never do that, without afterwards telling you to get back to work to get the economy working again.

 

[Belz...]

Short of making it illegal to not get Covid and die I don't know how much more on the diseases side they could really get.

DeSantis/COVID 2024!

 

[The Don]

DeSantis/COVID 2024!

The bizarre thing is that a significant minority of Americans seem to support policies like those implemented by Ron DeSantis and are vehemently against vaccination against Covid, mask use, social distancing or anything whatsoever to minimise the effects of Covid.

I mean I get that there might be a few cranks and loonies (like in the UK), but for the mainstream supporters of one of the two major parties in many states to behave like this is mind-blowing.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Because in the UK you guys don't have one party that is so hated that ~40% of the population will vote to elect a Praying Mantis with the head of Deep Sea Angler Fish in a Nazi SS Uniform who they will follow happily into the gates of Hell, acting against their own desires and self interests, if there is even a chance that doing it will tweak that other side.

The Right has announced it's intent and desire to sink the whole ship and happily go down with it just to drown the Left. I don't know how well that mentality really translates to other countries.

 

[The Don]

Because in the UK you guys don't have one party that is so hated that ~40% of the population will vote to elect the a Deep Sea Angler Fish in a Nazi SS Uniform who they will follow happily into the gates of Hell, acting against their own desires and self interests, just to piss them off.

The Right will sink the whole ship and happily go down with it just to drown the Left. I don't know how well that mentality really translates to other countries.

....and yet the individual policies of that hated party, whether it's on healthcare, infrastructure spending, gun control, education, immigration or whatever are popular.

 

[JoeMorgue]

....and yet the individual policies of that hated party, whether it's on healthcare, infrastructure spending, gun control, education, immigration or whatever are popular.

Because we don't have an even system. That ~40% of the people consistently maintain 50-80% of the power.

And even 40% of the power is a lot when your intent is just to pull the whole system down on everyone's head.

Our system has failsafes, but not against nihilistic trolls with nothing to lose.

 

[tyr_13]

Good. What's he going to do? Cut off all those teachers', principals', vice-principals', etc salaries? That ought to earn him a lot of support.

Literally suing them.

 

[acbytesla]

Because we don't have an even system. That ~40% of the people consistently maintain 50-80% of the power.

And even 40% of the power is a lot when your intent is just to pull the whole system down on everyone's head.

Our system has failsafes, but not against nihilistic trolls with nothing to lose.

Don't get me started on the American political system. I think it is a disaster. I think we would be better off today if the Brits had won the revolution.

 

[varwoche]

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[RecoveringYuppy]

Because we don't have an even system. That ~40% of the people consistently maintain 50-80% of the power..

Yep, to state the obvious, we really have to get rid of the Senate. Especially since no one votes like it is the "upper house" any longer (assuming anyone ever did).

Electoral College is less broken, but it's broken too.

 

[acbytesla]

Yep, to state the obvious, we really have to get rid of the Senate. Especially since no one votes like it is the "upper house" any longer (assuming anyone ever did).

Electoral College is less broken, but it's broken too.

I think we should go to a parliamentary system. We've given way too much power to empty land.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Yep, to state the obvious, we really have to get rid of the Senate. Especially since no one votes like it is the "upper house" any longer (assuming anyone ever did).

Electoral College is less broken, but it's broken too.

No it makes perfect sense that Wyoming gets as many Senators as it has goddamn escalators and it makes perfect sense that it's a point we have to "civilly debate" why a Senator that represents 240,000 people and a Senator that represents 8.4 million shouldn't have equal political power because "but mah states rights" and to suggest otherwise is absurd.

Right now the Senate is tied 50/50. Those 50 Democratic Senators represent 41 million more Americans than the 50 Republican Senators.

 

[Armitage72]

The bizarre thing is that a significant minority of Americans seem to support policies like those implemented by Ron DeSantis and are vehemently against vaccination against Covid, mask use, social distancing or anything whatsoever to minimise the effects of Covid.

I mean I get that there might be a few cranks and loonies (like in the UK), but for the mainstream supporters of one of the two major parties in many states to behave like this is mind-blowing.

It's like the claims after 9/11 that "if we change our way of life, the terrorists win", or the commercials for diet pills that say they'll let you lose huge amounts of weight without dieting, exercising, or changing your lifestyle in any way.
People want problems to be solved without having to change their behavior or make any effort themselves. If they have to do something different in their life, then there's something wrong with the solution.

 

[JoeMorgue]

It's like the claims after 9/11 that "if we change our way of life, the terrorists win", or the commercials for diet pills that say they'll let you lose huge amounts of weight without dieting, exercising, or changing your lifestyle in any way.
People want problems to be solved without having to change their behavior or make any effort themselves. If they have to do something different in their life, then there's something wrong with the solution.

It's not even that. I pine for the days when people were just stupid.

Now they are stupid and the solution they've all agreed on to how to deal with the fact they are stupid is "Can't nobody be stupid if everyone is dead."

 

[shemp]

Because in the UK you guys don't have one party that is so hated that ~40% of the population will vote to elect a Praying Mantis with the head of Deep Sea Angler Fish in a Nazi SS Uniform who they will follow happily into the gates of Hell, acting against their own desires and self interests, if there is even a chance that doing it will tweak that other side.

The Right has announced it's intent and desire to sink the whole ship and happily go down with it just to drown the Left. I don't know how well that mentality really translates to other countries.

The GQP pushed that iceberg right into the path of the Titanic because there were liberals on board! #gqpsankthetitanic

 

[jollyroger85]

like we had with Obama...gotta get rid of the Old Blood.

Ronald Dion DeSantis (born September 14, 1978) is an American politician and attorney serving as the 46th governor of Florida since 2019. A member of the Republican Party, he represented Florida's 6th congressional district in the United States House of Representatives from 2013 to 2018.

After graduating from Yale University and Harvard Law School, DeSantis served as an officer and attorney in the United States Navy's Judge Advocate General's Corps. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 2012. DeSantis was a candidate in Florida's 2016 U.S. Senate election, but he withdrew when incumbent senator Marco Rubio announced that he would seek reelection. He then opted to run for reelection to his U.S. House seat. During his tenure in Congress, he became a staunch ally of President Donald Trump. DeSantis made frequent criticisms of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.

On August 28, 2018, DeSantis won the Republican primary for the gubernatorial election. He was officially certified as the winner of the general election on November 20, 2018, after a machine recount, defeating the Democratic nominee, Tallahassee mayor Andrew Gillum. At 42, he is the youngest governor in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_DeSantis

Maybe this has been covered already, he is a complete scumbag who has ignored and tweaked Covid numbers and has that blood on his hands. He belongs in prison being given daily if not hourly beatings.

 

[Stacyhs]

Literally suing them.

This from your link:
DeSantis:
“The path forward relies on personal responsibility—not government mandates,” said Abbott. “The State of Texas will continue to vigorously fight the temporary restraining order to protect the rights and freedoms of all Texans.”

The problem is that so many Texans (and people in general) don't exercise personal responsibility and largely due to people like Abbott and other GOP who have put partisan politics ahead of the public good.

Does Abbott think that there should be no seat belt laws or laws against drunk driving or speeding laws because that should be left up to personal responsibility?

This is the hill that Abbott, DeSantis, Kemp and other stupid, stupid, stupid people have decided to die on. Many literally will die but they'd rather die than be told to wear a damn mask or get a shot for the common good of the country. Why? Because of some distorted view that this will take away their FREEDOMS. The fact is, if people actually were personally responsible, we wouldn't need most laws like those I've mentioned. But they're not.

 

[JoeMorgue]

You have to understand the Right and the GOP base are terrified, I mean white as a ghost petrified, of the idea of the government doing something good and effectively. To them having to watch the government actually solve a problem will shatter their world view to the point we might as well force them to look at the creatures from Birdbox.

"Government is bad, and to prove it we will govern badly" is really not even the subtext anymore, it's the text.

Because they have perverted and toxified "freedom" as a concept into a sad, pathetic, edgelord game of "You can't tell me what to do" and think that's the same thing.

DeSantis isn't (that kind of) stupid. He knows people aren't just going to voluntarily not be stupid evil douchebags. He's counting on it.

 

[Belz...]

You have to understand the Right and the GOP base are terrified, I mean white as a ghost petrified, of the idea of the government doing something good and effectively. To them having to watch the government actually solve a problem will shatter their world view to the point we might as well force them to look at the creatures from Birdbox.

"Government is bad, and to prove it we will govern badly" is really not even the subtext anymore, it's the text.

Because they have perverted and toxified "freedom" as a concept into a sad, pathetic, edgelord game of "You can't tell me what to do" and think that's the same thing.

Yep.