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Not vaccinated=selfish & irresponsible?

Not being vaccinated- selfish & irresponsible?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 84 94.4%
  • No, Covid is a hoax, not dangerous, mind your business, freedom!!!

    Votes: 5 5.6%

  • Total voters
    89
Yes, Plandemic, I believed this from when the covid switch was turned on in early March 2020, I had a mask on 2 times when for a dental and MD appt and FOR SURE no jabs in the dark from these unapproved experimental drugs....no way Jose'....

Get govt out of my life on my health issues....they are my responsibility not govt....

I take care of my immune system and it is very strong and I'm 82.

Anyone who says such is lacking in critical thought.

Get a vaccine, and help protect those around you.

There was no 'switch' that was turned on in March 2020. Anyone who says as such is lying. Covid-19 was discovered late 2019.

What are you, 12?
 
No, this is wrong.

Delta variant is more transmissible, yes, about 60% more infectious.

But the risk of death is twice as high for Delta than for the original variant.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.05.21260050v1

"Compared to non-VOC SARS-CoV-2 strains, and adjusting for comorbidity, age and sex of cases, and temporal trends, the elevation in risk associated with N501Y-positive variants was 74% (62-86%) for hospitalization; 138% (105-176%) for ICU admission; and 83% (57-114%) for death. Increases with delta variant were even larger: 105% (80-133%) for hospitalization; 241% (163-344%) for ICU admission; and 121% (57-211%) for death. "

THEY don't know, it's all made up as it goes along, more FEAR MONGERING.

Nothing EVER mentioned by the great govt to work on your OWN health, oh no take our unapproved jabs....
 
Anyone who says such is lacking in critical thought.

Get a vaccine, and help protect those around you.

There was no 'switch' that was turned on in March 2020. Anyone who says as such is lying. Covid-19 was discovered late 2019.

What are you, 12?

NO NO and NO....
 
It's everyone's Personal Responsibility for their OWN Health!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Extra Exclamation marks really drive the nuttery home!

A highly vaccinated populous helps to protect the vulnerable. They Very Young, the very old, and those who are immuno-compromised. This is called Herd Immunity.
 
It's everyone's Personal Responsibility for their OWN Health!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

so you would have no problem if I injected myself with a highly contagious bioweapon.
It's my body and my health, after all.

Just let me know where you live so I can drop by and we can discuss this face-to face after I got my smallpox/anthrax injection.
 
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It's everyone's Personal Responsibility for their OWN Health!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

This is a ridiculously absolute statement.

If you knew you had an infectious disease that could be spread by coughing and yet you walked into a crowded cinema and coughed thoughout the film not only ruining the enjoyment of the film but also passing on your diseases, are the people you decided to cough all over solely responsible for getting ill, or do you think that maybe you have some responsibility for others?
 
so you would have no problem if I injected myself with a highly contagious bioweapon.
It's my body and my health, after all.

Just let me know where you live so I can drop by and we can discuss this face-to face after I got my smallpox injection.

Add in Polio to that. She/He/They doesn't understand what stopped it.
 
How about daily doses of Vit C, Vit D, Zinc, Grape Seed Extract and throw in a dose of Quercetin. These are the protection.

None of those things will protect you from Covid.

All of the approved vaccines will.

Seems like a pretty easy decision to make.
 
That's pretty weak. Everyone is a breeding ground for a new mutation of something all of the time.
I didn't get vaccinated to protect anyone else- and frankly don't care if someone else wishes to take the risk of walking around without the same protection.

People who are vaccinated aren't a breeding ground for a new variation of Covid.

They may be potential breeding grounds for other things, but that's true whether they are vaccinated against Covid or not, so I don't see how it could enter in to your cost/benefit analysis of vaccination against Covid.

People who aren't vaccinated are also potential vectors for infection of other unvaccinated people. That's also not a good thing.
 
I disagree because although libertarian ideas have some lure, in this case those who refuse vaccination do not simply become ill themselves, but become hosts and spreaders of new variants, which, I'm told, would be far harder to occur if everyone were already vaccinated, and to some extent that even extends to variants that vaccination does not address as well.

I am always torn by libertarian ideas, because there's a rogue part of me that likes the idea of doing whatever you want. But I think in certain matters of public policy it falls down, and the only way to reconcile it would be some variant of segregation. Not that of location, but of services. So, for example, if you opt not to be vaccinated, you must sign a document promising never to seek it. No chances after chances after chances. If you get Covid, tough luck. If you object to compulsory insurance, then you sign a document guaranteeing that you will never seek financial aid in a case that insurance would cover, and so forth. If you hit a pedestrian and get sued, tough luck. No "uninsured motorist" coverage, no sympathy, pay up, and if you want to paint libertarian slogans on the cardboard box you live in, fine.

OK, I'm being pretty facetious and very impractical and very unforgiving, but you get the idea. Even solipsists are social animals even if they dispute the fact.


What is libertarian about pointing out that Covid anti-vaxxers hurt themselves most of all? That is what current statistics show!
 
See, you think it’s selfishness and irresponsibility but from what I understand from talking to people who refuse the vaccine, and even from reading this thread, it’s mostly cowardice as much as they try and dress it up.

But I think there’s enough of us out there to step up and willing to carry the load so you losers can keep crying about plandemics and grapes. I couldn’t imagine being that weak, it’s an embarrassment.
 
Bit 50/50 on it to be fair.

Personally will probably have it when qualified (our country has a crap roll out. Thanks Ardern. That rest of the world thinks you're ace, but you could'nt run a bath let alone a country), but do have misgivings given the lack of trial time and possible effects.

Can see why some people wouldn't

Tad weiry of rushed things.
 
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Sure, given the availablity of vaccines and the lack of any medical reasons why not to vaccinate then sure it's selfish to refuse. That said the actual reasons people have are no doubt more nuanced than the voting alternatives.

And as usual, anyone who even questions the forum orthodoxy as to the eventual mutation of the the virus into something that kills in 24 hours and spreads telepathically is automatically branded a Republican antivaxer nazi, or somesuch.
 
See, you think it’s selfishness and irresponsibility but from what I understand from talking to people who refuse the vaccine, and even from reading this thread, it’s mostly cowardice as much as they try and dress it up.

But I think there’s enough of us out there to step up and willing to carry the load so you losers can keep crying about plandemics and grapes. I couldn’t imagine being that weak, it’s an embarrassment.

Sorry missed this. You do realise some people actually can't take it due to medical reasons?

And if I few others don't who cares if you have mostly mass.
 
Sorry missed this. You do realise some people actually can't take it due to medical reasons?

Everyone accepts that, and nobody would have a problem with people who don't take the vaccine for medical reasons.

And if I few others don't who cares if you have mostly mass.

You see, the problem is that in many cases it isn't a few. What is happening is an active misinformation and disinformation campaign based on fear-mongering and ignorance, often pushed by charismatic BS artists.
 
Sorry missed this. You do realise some people actually can't take it due to medical reasons?

And if I few others don't who cares if you have mostly mass.

I think hiding behind people who can’t get it due to medical reasons is exactly the kind of cowardly behavior I was thinking of when I made that post. I think allowing other people to take the risks for you while you sit back and watch because you’re afraid is weak and I don’t have respect for people who do and they should be ashamed of themselves.
 

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