The Marjorie Taylor Greene thread.

[Norman Alexander]

Would it be appropriate to just come right on out and say what most lefties are likely thinking even if they don't say it....that most people refusing the vaccine are likely Repugnican voters... so what was the problem again?

If QNuts like MTG and Boebert don't want to get vaccinated, let them. The planet could do with having less people like them.

Just asking for a friend

Been saying that for a while now. All the fewer MAGA voters now, and in the future. Problem is that they will take a bunch of non-MAGAchuds down with them, especially children.

Perhaps a better solution I have seen proposed is that for vaccination-refusers, their medical insurance companies should be able to deny them coverage for COVID-related outcomes. That includes claims by other people they infect. So they are on their own for all medical liabilities. The same as for drivers who refuse to wear seatbelts then get extra-hurt in car accidents. The price of their "freedom" is not free.

 

[newyorkguy]

Words of (non)wisdom from Marj.

 

[slyjoe]

Would it be appropriate to just come right on out and say what most lefties are likely thinking even if they don't say it....that most people refusing the vaccine are likely Repugnican voters... so what was the problem again?

If QNuts like MTG and Boebert don't want to get vaccinated, let them. The planet could do with having less people like them.

Just asking for a friend

The 5% of the US population that has compromised immune systems disagrees with you. The point is to get rid of the community spread, not protect yourself only.

Your argument is the same as theirs.

Unless of course it was all a joke, then nevermind.

 

[gnome]

I think we should let MTG run the CDC... imagine that, solving pandemics by just "getting over it".

 

[ferd burfle]

She will say anything that enters her empty ole noggin if it keeps her in the limelight and in the grift, so I guess she is bright enough to understand that.

I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it, but whenever I see reference to her I think "Empty Gee".

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

What the heck is "Empty Gee"? Google doesn't seem to know.

 

[gypsyjackson]

What the heck is "Empty Gee"? Google doesn't seem to know.

MTG = Empty, gee!

Devoid, bereft etc.

 

[autumn1971]

What the heck is "Empty Gee"? Google doesn't seem to know.

An old cable station that used to actually play Gewsic videos, until goyim like Greene invaded every industry.

Now it’s just fake reality shows

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

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Perhaps a better solution I have seen proposed is that for vaccination-refusers, their medical insurance companies should be able to deny them coverage for COVID-related outcomes. That includes claims by other people they infect. So they are on their own for all medical liabilities. The same as for drivers who refuse to wear seatbelts then get extra-hurt in car accidents. The price of their "freedom" is not free.

That would only result in hospitals with more uncollectible debt.

 

[Stacyhs]

The 5% of the US population that has compromised immune systems disagrees with you. The point is to get rid of the community spread, not protect yourself only.

Your argument is the same as theirs.

Unless of course it was all a joke, then nevermind.

So what do you suggest? Forced vaccinations? That isn't going to happen. All this screaming from idiots like MTG about people being forced to get vaccinated is just fear mongering. Can you honestly see the SC, especially this SC, finding forced vaccinations Constitutional?

 

[Stacyhs]

That would only result in hospitals with more uncollectible debt.

That was my first reaction to NA's post. But the inclusion of insurance denial to those "claims by other people they infect" is especially not well thought out. There are people out there who cannot be vaccinated due to allergies to them or other health reasons and the vaccine is not 100% effective.

CNN just reported that ALL 120 June Covid deaths in Maryland were unvaccinated. Frankly, I have a very hard time feeling sympathy for them if they were unvaccinated by choice. But I guess they were "just over Covid".

 

[eerok]

CNN just reported that ALL 120 June Covid deaths in Maryland were unvaccinated. Frankly, I have a very hard time feeling sympathy for them if they were unvaccinated by choice. But I guess they were "just over Covid".

They're certainly over it now.

 

[Stacyhs]

They're certainly over it now.

I wonder if their families, especially if they are not vaccinated either, are also "just over Covid".

I have a friend in South Africa whose parents are both ill with Covid. Her mother, thankfully, has just been released from the hospital but is still testing positive. Her father, who has dementia, is on a ventilator. She now is taking care of her mother even though she is not vaccinated either. She isn't unvaccinated by choice; it was just unavailable. She is hoping she can get it by next month.

 

[gnome]

So what do you suggest? Forced vaccinations? That isn't going to happen. All this screaming from idiots like MTG about people being forced to get vaccinated is just fear mongering. Can you honestly see the SC, especially this SC, finding forced vaccinations Constitutional?

I think a lot of the legal dispute is going to be about who can require it as a condition. Can employers require it of employees in order to work, can schools require it of students in order to attend. Can places of business require it of customers, can airlines require it to travel.

 

[slyjoe]

I think a lot of the legal dispute is going to be about who can require it as a condition. Can employers require it of employees in order to work, can schools require it of students in order to attend. Can places of business require it of customers, can airlines require it to travel.

This is exactly right. There aren't going to be forced vaccinations - although the military may be an exception. Don't we have like 5 vaccinations that are required to enroll your kids in school? And the Houston hospital just won the case brought by the 153 employees who didn't want the vaccine.

 

[slyjoe]

That was my first reaction to NA's post. But the inclusion of insurance denial to those "claims by other people they infect" is especially not well thought out. There are people out there who cannot be vaccinated due to allergies to them or other health reasons and the vaccine is not 100% effective.

CNN just reported that ALL 120 June Covid deaths in Maryland were unvaccinated. Frankly, I have a very hard time feeling sympathy for them if they were unvaccinated by choice. But I guess they were "just over Covid".

You don't have to deny insurance - increase the premiums like we do with dangerous drivers.

And could you tell me what health reasons other than allergies prevent someone from getting the vaccine? I honestly don't know.

Similar to a discussion I had on another forum - choosing to not be an organ donor may be due to religious reasons. What religion? People say that but have a hard time backing that up. As far as I know, all religions support donation. Are there religions that don't support getting a Covid vaccine? Maybe JW?

 

[JoeMorgue]

*Shrugs* It's pathetic we've fallen so far as a society that we have to run a "Freedom versus Security" trolley problem on a bunch of walking plague blankets.

"Freedom" has to be more than sad, pathetic "You can't tell me what to do, I'm gonna poke myself in the eye with this sharp stick just to get back at da gubernment for telling me not to" contrarianism.

 

[Horatius]

I think a lot of the legal dispute is going to be about who can require it as a condition. Can employers require it of employees in order to work, can schools require it of students in order to attend. Can places of business require it of customers, can airlines require it to travel.

Considering the recent history of employers' rights vs. employees' rights in the US, this one would seem like a slam-dunk. Employers can fire people for almost any reason, or no reason at all, in a lot of states, so why not this one?

To prevent this, they'd have to write an "unvaccinated" exemption into the law, just as there is for gender or race.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Considering the recent history of employers' rights vs. employees' rights in the US, this one would seem like a slam-dunk. Employers can fire people for almost any reason, or no reason at all, in a lot of states, so why not this one?

To prevent this, they'd have to write an "unvaccinated" exemption into the law, just as there is for gender or race.

Seeing as how many vaccine exemptions are religious, there pretty much is.

 

[catsmate]

So what do you suggest? Forced vaccinations? That isn't going to happen. All this screaming from idiots like MTG about people being forced to get vaccinated is just fear mongering. Can you honestly see the SC, especially this SC, finding forced vaccinations Constitutional?

No vaccination, no entry to restaurants, public buildings, no international travel