Cont: Qanon Conspiracy Theories Part Two

[Monica 56]

So when will Fauci and Gates get arrested?
(Hint: never, and everyone who tells you otherwise (*cough*Alex Jones*cough*) is lying to you.

You are trying to produce a conclusion that I never even suggested or even hinted at . Lazy thinking .

The games played are a little more complex than the assumed split between right/ wrong , good/ bad etc .

 

[Monica 56]

The dam will never burst because none of what you say is true. Shortly, you'll move on to some new nonsense and will have conveniently forgot about this current foolishness that your occupied with.

You have as much idea of what occupies me as does a fly on the wall . What patronising drivel .

Did I say the dam will burst ? Of course not , although that outcome is not totally impossible .

The point which you totally miss is how and when narratives are used to cover and cloak other issues .

Deflection .

 

[The Great Zaganza]

In other words: you will never make a falsifiable prediction.

 

[Belz...]

What patronising drivel .

And you know all about patronising drivel.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

In other words: you will never make a falsifiable prediction.

Or provide any evidence.

 

[Monica 56]

Poor Snowflakes trying to deflect from the one point being made .

So difficult for you to conceive alternative explanations to those you have been conditioned to accept .

Impossible for you to question the given MSM narrative about Q and look at whether it was a CIA driven operation almost from the very beginning .

Hardly a scientific approach . More pseudo rational and exactly the approach you claim CTs employ .

 

[eerok]

This CIA psy - op has certainly got many of the Compliance Gullibles confused .

It only ran a short while before Langley -- as it then was -- co-opted the original joke operation for a more serious agency use . To ridicule the Right and the concerning strength of the Veterans and Patriots .
Now it seems be rebounding badly on the originators and assumed beneficiaries as so often happens with operations founded on lies .
Create a mountain of BS , just as they they have separately done with the Gates and Fauci narratives , and when the dams burst the resulting catastrophes are epic .

It's impossible to make sense out of your blather. What CIA psy-op? The BS is not from the CIA. The right deserves ridicule. The people suckered in by QAnon are not patriots. What rebounding? What dams? What about Gates and Fauci?

This is all disinfo salad with key phrases thrown in at random.

 

[TheSupermeerkat]

Did I say the dam will burst ? Of course not , although that outcome is not totally impossible .





Deflection .

Metaphors are just another word to you, I see.

 

[Belz...]

Poor Snowflakes trying to deflect from the one point being made .

You have no point. Only an unsupported series of claims.

So difficult for you to conceive alternative explanations to those you have been conditioned to accept .

There you go again, despite being corrected numerous times, insisting that anyone who disagrees with you is "brainwashed".

Impossible for you to question the given MSM narrative about Q and look at whether it was a CIA driven operation almost from the very beginning .

I know Q is nonsense because I looked at Q's claims. Your boogeyman MSM has nothing to do with this. Conversely YOU seem unable or unwilling to question your own narrative.

Hardly a scientific approach .

You know what science requires? EVIDENCE.

 

[gypsyjackson]

Metaphors are just another word to you, I see.

S/he did literally say

when the dams burst

in his/her post, so I’m surprised that s/he got indignant about that.

I can’t quite work out what his/her point is - QAnon is right, and Trump will come back in August, but QAnon is really the CIA trying to discredit the political right, but it’s rebounding on the CIA because...Gates and Fauci...something...

I would actually be really interested in looking into whether QAnon was taken over by the CIA. Can you show this to be true, Monica 56, or do we just have to take your word for it?

 

[eerok]

I can’t quite work out what his/her point is - QAnon is right, and Trump will come back in August, but QAnon is really the CIA trying to discredit the political right, but it’s rebounding on the CIA because...Gates and Fauci...something...

It's disinfo bafflegab. A crapfest of FUD. Bot spew.

I would actually be really interested in looking into whether QAnon was taken over by the CIA. Can you show this to be true, Monica 56, or do we just have to take your word for it?

I wouldn't expect anything reasonable.

 

[Aridas]

Poor Snowflakes trying to deflect from the one point being made .

So difficult for you to conceive alternative explanations to those you have been conditioned to accept .

Impossible for you to question the given MSM narrative about Q and look at whether it was a CIA driven operation almost from the very beginning .

Hardly a scientific approach . More pseudo rational and exactly the approach you claim CTs employ .

Boring. If you're going to spout what you've got to know sounds like inane nonsense, could you at least make it entertaining, back it up with real evidence, or even just back it up with reasonable argument? Right now, you're just presenting yourself as mentally ill... at best.

 

[Foster Zygote]

In other words: you will never make a falsifiable prediction.

Except when she forgets not to. Just over two weeks ago she said we were in for an interesting four weeks, culminating in the Arizona recount leading to a military coup and the ouster of the Biden administration, and, as she's indicated elsewhere, the reinstatement of Trump as president. I'd link to it, but it's in AAH, with 60% of her posts.

Clock's ticking.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Did I say the dam will burst ? Of course not , although that outcome is not totally impossible .

You said "when the dam bursts". Not if - but when. I know your shtick is to imply your own brilliance by talking to everyone like you're barely tolerating their stupidity, but the psychology underlying your syntax is transparently obvious. You come as close as you dare get to predicting momentous events based on your conspiracy theories - close enough that if, by some wild chance, they come true, you can claim that you knew all along. But you also know, no doubt through experience, to leave just enough of a buffer of deniability that you can disavow ever having predicted an event that never comes to pass. We've seen it all before - from a myriad of self-proclaimed psychics and prophets. And we recognize the pattern of reassignment going on with labeling Q as a CIA psy-op. It's the same thing countless other conspiracy theorists have done when some element of their narrative grows too embarrassing to ignore. Every person on your side who admits error is a shill who's been bought - every failed proof is a disinfo campaign by Them.

And, let's be honest, QAnon has become an enormous embarrassment over the last seven months. As any prophet deluded enough to believe his own claims can affirm, you can only push the Big Day back so many times before even you feel the humiliation of doing so. So now it's suggested that it could be a CIA plot to make right wingers look bad. But it doesn't change he fact that so many of them have fallen for it in whole or in part. It's like when people say that Hitler only pretended to be an orthodox Christian to get people to follow him. The fact still remains that "good Christians" followed him, whether or not he was honest with them about his religious beliefs. So they aren't absolved of shame for their beliefs.

 

[Axxman300]

This CIA psy - op has certainly got many of the Compliance Gullibles confused .

It only ran a short while before Langley -- as it then was -- co-opted the original joke operation for a more serious agency use . To ridicule the Right and the concerning strength of the Veterans and Patriots .
Now it seems be rebounding badly on the originators and assumed beneficiaries as so often happens with operations founded on lies .
Create a mountain of BS , just as they they have separately done with the Gates and Fauci narratives , and when the dams burst the resulting catastrophes are epic .

On behalf of the CIA I'll point out that the Agency has "patriotic" Americans risking their lives around the world in just about every country, friend or foe, to collect intelligence for the United States government. Trump and his b*tt-kissing troglodytes refused to take the daily CIA morning briefings, and coopted the Agency for personal financial gain.

You are part of the Anti-American machine.

Also, Q was never anything more than an 8-Chan prank to fool the growing gullibility of right-wing supporters. You weren't fooled by CIA specialists, you were fooled by Red Bull-drinking computer nerds.

In short, you were had by "snowflakes".

 

[bruto]

This CIA psy - op has certainly got many of the Compliance Gullibles confused .

It only ran a short while before Langley -- as it then was -- co-opted the original joke operation for a more serious agency use . To ridicule the Right and the concerning strength of the Veterans and Patriots .
Now it seems be rebounding badly on the originators and assumed beneficiaries as so often happens with operations founded on lies .
Create a mountain of BS , just as they they have separately done with the Gates and Fauci narratives , and when the dams burst the resulting catastrophes are epic .

So when will those dams burst? We keep hearing these paeans of prideful perspicacity, the noble heralds of correctness warning us of our pending doom and their superior insight. They seem well informed and claim to know a lot of details, but are surprisingly vague about the schedule. When o when?

 

[turingtest]

You said "when the dam bursts". Not if - but when. I know your shtick is to imply your own brilliance by talking to everyone like you're barely tolerating their stupidity, but the psychology underlying your syntax is transparently obvious. You come as close as you dare get to predicting momentous events based on your conspiracy theories - close enough that if, by some wild chance, they come true, you can claim that you knew all along. But you also know, no doubt through experience, to leave just enough of a buffer of deniability that you can disavow ever having predicted an event that never comes to pass. We've seen it all before - from a myriad of self-proclaimed psychics and prophets. And we recognize the pattern of reassignment going on with labeling Q as a CIA psy-op. It's the same thing countless other conspiracy theorists have done when some element of their narrative grows too embarrassing to ignore. Every person on your side who admits error is a shill who's been bought - every failed proof is a disinfo campaign by Them.

And, let's be honest, QAnon has become an enormous embarrassment over the last seven months. As any prophet deluded enough to believe his own claims can affirm, you can only push the Big Day back so many times before even you feel the humiliation of doing so. So now it's suggested that it could be a CIA plot to make right wingers look bad. But it doesn't change he fact that so many of them have fallen for it in whole or in part. It's like when people say that Hitler only pretended to be an orthodox Christian to get people to follow him. The fact still remains that "good Christians" followed him, whether or not he was honest with them about his religious beliefs. So they aren't absolved of shame for their beliefs.

Edited by Agatha: 

Please do not make sock accusations in-thread; report suspicions to the mod team.

(Shrug) Deleted by poster.

 

[TheSupermeerkat]

The quoted text in the above post look Markov chains.

 

[Craig4]

Poor Snowflakes trying to deflect from the one point being made .

So difficult for you to conceive alternative explanations to those you have been conditioned to accept .

Impossible for you to question the given MSM narrative about Q and look at whether it was a CIA driven operation almost from the very beginning .

Hardly a scientific approach . More pseudo rational and exactly the approach you claim CTs employ .

It's totes adorbs that you think you're making a point.

 

[Checkmite]

This sort of schism was inevitable. After the failure of Trump to get re-elected or, barring that, to nullify the election and remain in office, there were always going to be some set of conspiracy-minded individuals who would become disillusioned with QAnon and its promises, not in a way that would make them question their conspiratorial approach to making sense of the world but rather in a way that would prompt them to turn the existence of the failed QAnon itself into another conspiracy.

Right-wingers - not uniquely by any means - already tend to view the world in a very black-and-white way. There are people who are clearly The Good Guys, and everyone else is either a Bad Guy or a tool to some degree of the Bad Guys. Conspiracy-minded fanatics on the right-wing take this ontology deeper; in their world not only are there clear Good Guys, but it is the fundamental, natural order of that world that those Good Guys will prevail in all endeavors if things are left to carry on and develop without interference. When that does not happen - when a situation arises where the Good Guys don't win, or even end up doing bad things themselves - it is not just happenstance; it can only be the result of a deliberately scripted plot by the Bad Guys to cause that eventuality in defiance of the natural order. Specifically in the case of bad acts being committed by Good Guys, they must only have done what they did because they were corrupted or intentionally manipulated into committing that bad act for the benefit of the Bad Guys' agenda. This reasoning solves the cognitive dissonance - it makes the bad acts by the Good Guys verisimilar and even validating by playing into the "Seduction of the Innocent" victimization narrative, and it relieves the conspiracy theorist of the scary prospect of having to interrogate their own worldview and the values of those who share it.