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Why did China commit 8000 PLA soldiers as UN Peacekeepers?

You like how I found that part where the Rockefellers hired the avowed Marxist to paint a communist mural, and then decided it probably wasn't a good idea, don't you?

Here's a link to an article about that.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/when-nelson-rockefeller-killed-diego-riveras-communist-mural

Is it ok for conspiracy theorists to win on this forum sometimes? Because I feel like I'm winning :D

Maybe time for some mod white knighting? Can't let alternative history go uncensored!

What is that supposed to be evidence of other than they didn't like the artwork?
 
All the thread contains is claims on your part.

Hmm. Did you click on any one of the countless links to reputable sources that I posted? It seems like I'm making claims about those links.

I gave links to exact numbers and distribution of UN peacekeeping forces around the globe, all you did was claim that China increasing their commitment is some kind of invasion of Africa.
You also haven't supported your claim that the UN is some kind of totalitarian one world government.

I don't dispute your posted UN figures. Chinese invasion of Africa are your words, although I don't really dispute that either.

As far as my claim that the UN is some kind of totalitarian world government, well, that is part of the essence of the conspiracy theory, right? Any good conspiracy theory can't be falsified. You will have to use your brain, at some point.
 
So I'm clear, after Somalia the GOP demands that the US draw back on its UN Peacekeeping force commitments, which their lawmakers put into action, and as of today the United States of America (the alleged leader of the free world) has committed 30 individual members of the military to UN Peacekeeping.

Compounding the fun, Trump refuses to pay the UN money we are obligated to pay under the charter.

Put it this way, if I hand the keys to my bar to a biker gang member I barely know and tell him to keep an eye on the place while I head out on vacation; and when I come back all of my liquor is gone, and the place is trashed... who's at fault?

"America First!" is BS. Being a superpower requires all kinds of foreign commitment in terms of financial, logistical, and military aid (weapons sales, or intervention). That's how the game has been played from Xerxes, Rome, Genghis Khan, Spain, England, and since 1945 the US. Things change, the US has competition from China. The GOP had control of the White House and Senate for 4 years, what did they do to implement strategy to counter China on any level?

I'll save you the work, they did Jack Squat.

The GOP and guys like you are fantastic at whining, but never offer solutions. The average American handed China much of their economic power starting in the 1990s as American consumers came to demand low prices for just about everything, and Walmart and other large chains forced US-based manufacturers to move production to China with zero thought to the consequences to American society at every level.
COVID-19 exposed how dependent we are on China for our own healthcare needs (Vaccines, PPE, and medical equipment). Yet there was no movement by the GOP to force American companies to relocate on-shore (which Congress can actually do if they had the stones). Compounding our internal production capabilities are our minimum wage and environmental laws which prevent key products from realistically being made in this country (and yes this is the fault of the Left), and yet the GOP never properly articulated this problem because their mouth-pieces are Neanderthals.

China's biggest threat is their brain-power. They are graduating PhDs in the millions every year. The United States? We're looking into expanding vocational training in high schools.

Look I get it, the Chinese bug you for some reason, but CTs like this actually help the Chinese Communist Cause by blowing smoke. The promlem isn't China, the problem is Washington, and by proxy the American people who voted for ALL of those self-serving morons.
 
So I'm clear, after Somalia the GOP demands that the US draw back on its UN Peacekeeping force commitments, which their lawmakers put into action, and as of today the United States of America (the alleged leader of the free world) has committed 30 individual members of the military to UN Peacekeeping.

Compounding the fun, Trump refuses to pay the UN money we are obligated to pay under the charter.

Perhaps Trump recognized that the United Nation's was founded and is run by communists, and was taking steps to reduce US support. That may or may not be a mistake, depending on what happens next. Apparently the Biden administration isn't worried about the Chicoms.

Put it this way, if I hand the keys to my bar to a biker gang member I barely know and tell him to keep an eye on the place while I head out on vacation; and when I come back all of my liquor is gone, and the place is trashed... who's at fault?

The biker gang. But if you weren't so naive, you wouldn't have trusted them. Next question?

"America First!" is BS. Being a superpower requires all kinds of foreign commitment in terms of financial, logistical, and military aid (weapons sales, or intervention). That's how the game has been played from Xerxes, Rome, Genghis Khan, Spain, England, and since 1945 the US. Things change, the US has competition from China. The GOP had control of the White House and Senate for 4 years, what did they do to implement strategy to counter China on any level?

I'll save you the work, they did Jack Squat.
China's ascent was sponsored by domestic communists like David Rockefeller, as this thread has touched upon.

The GOP did more to counter China than Biden will. He will coddle them.

The GOP and guys like you are fantastic at whining, but never offer solutions. The average American handed China much of their economic power starting in the 1990s as American consumers came to demand low prices for just about everything, and Walmart and other large chains forced US-based manufacturers to move production to China with zero thought to the consequences to American society at every level.

Yes, it was the average American's fault for "demanding lower prices". Which is why Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, and why Wall Street began exporting US manufacturing.

COVID-19 exposed how dependent we are on China for our own healthcare needs (Vaccines, PPE, and medical equipment). Yet there was no movement by the GOP to force American companies to relocate on-shore (which Congress can actually do if they had the stones). Compounding our internal production capabilities are our minimum wage and environmental laws which prevent key products from realistically being made in this country (and yes this is the fault of the Left), and yet the GOP never properly articulated this problem because their mouth-pieces are Neanderthals.

Forcing companies to do their bidding is what totalitarian governments like China do. There was effort made towards incentivizing domestic production for goods concerning national security, but I don't remember the details or who deserves credit. It happened under the Trump administration.

China's biggest threat is their brain-power. They are graduating PhDs in the millions every year. The United States? We're looking into expanding vocational training in high schools.
The Chinese stole most of their technology from us. All companies that do business in China are required to partner with the CCP. The reason US Universities are failing, is because they are engaged in communist brainwashing, and selling useless, culture-destroying liberal arts degrees promoting racial and cultural division.

Look I get it, the Chinese bug you for some reason, but CTs like this actually help the Chinese Communist Cause by blowing smoke. The promlem isn't China, the problem is Washington, and by proxy the American people who voted for ALL of those self-serving morons.

I'm a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe voting matters much anymore. But yes, the problem started with domestic enemies that sold us out.
 
Perhaps Trump recognized that the United Nation's was founded and is run by communists, and was taking steps to reduce US support.
If he thought so you could show us the tweets.

Apparently the Biden administration isn't worried about the Chicoms.
Apparent how? How does this lack of concern manifest itself?
 
Perhaps Trump recognized that the United Nation's was founded and is run by communists, and was taking steps to reduce US support. That may or may not be a mistake, depending on what happens next. Apparently the Biden administration isn't worried about the Chicoms.

1. I doubt Trump can spell the word, "Communist".

2. Trump World Tower is located at 845 United Nations Plaza, Manhattan. Guess who leases suites there. And yes it belongs to Donand Jerkwater Trump.

And then what? So in the future maybe China lures the UN to relocate to Beijing? How is that in our interest.

You really bought into his puppet show.

The biker gang. But if you weren't so naive, you wouldn't have trusted them. Next question?

And yet you back the biggest criminal to ever sit in the Oval Office.

China's ascent was sponsored by domestic communists like David Rockefeller, as this thread has touched upon.

The GOP did more to counter China than Biden will. He will coddle them.

Nope.

Ever here of a place called Vietnam? Truman (D) got us in there, Kennedy(D) stepped up our activity there, and LBJ (D) went balls out to stop the advance of Communism driven by Mao. Nixon pretty much folded up shop, and opened the door to China.

Biden has been President since January 20, a little over 4 months. Nobody knows what he'll do...including him.

Yes, it was the average American's fault for "demanding lower prices". Which is why Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement, and why Wall Street began exporting US manufacturing.

NAFTA stands for North American Free Trade Agreement. This doesn't include China.

The Chinese stole most of their technology from us. All companies that do business in China are required to partner with the CCP.

A lot of it was given to them too.

I'm a conspiracy theorist. I don't believe voting matters much anymore.

That's the problem. Only 72% of elegable Americans are registered to vote, which means 27% of the US population can kiss my butt. Of that 72% only 66.8% could be bothered to cast a vote.

Democracy only works when people vote. In spite of all the rigging done by the GOP in key states the large numbers of dedicated voters nullified their actions. America would be a different place if it averaged a 85% t0 90% voter turnout.

People who chose not to vote are technically communists by virtue of their inaction.
 
1. Fund communist dictatorships in order to consolidate wealth!
2. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS! Really, just Joos everywhere!
3. Profit?!
 
In this thread Tippit rants about commies, dog whistles about teh joos and fails to provide anything to support his claims.

Typical CT.
 
Once again, the Wall Street bankers and tycoons that backed the communists (like Jacob Schiff, son of Moses Schiff, broker to the European Rothschild banking dynasty) had no intentions of playing Robin Hood, they simply recognized that in order to further consolidate power, they needed to abolish competition and then socialize everything after they seized control of government. It might be fair to say that they weren't "pinko revolutionaries", in the sense that a lot of the mindless supporters of communism don't really understand how it benefits elites who bank governments, but, lets just say they were "big fans" of communism.

Big fans of communism? Really?
From your own link:
Schiff's gripe against Russia had been its anti-Semitism. At home Schiff had never shown any sympathy for socialism, not even the milder Morris Hillquit variety. Schiff had declared victory for his purposes in Russia after the tsar was toppled in March 1917 and Alexander Kerensky, representing the new provisional government, had declared Jews to be equal citizens. In addition to repeated public statements of support, he used both his personal wealth and the resources of Kuhn Loeb to float large loans to Kerensky's regime. When Lenin and Trotsky seized power for themselves in November 1917, Schiff immediately rejected them, cut off further loans, started funding anti-Bolshevist groups, and even demanded that the Bolsheviks pay back some of the money he'd loaned Kerensky.

So, no, let's not just say they were big fans of communism then. :rolleyes:
 
Say, Tipper, do you suppose someone might try to win an argument a century from now by presenting an evangelical painting of a shirtless, verile, normally colored Donald Trump flexing ripped biceps, pecs and abs?

How about some context for that cartoon? Who drew it? Who published it? For all we know the artist thought that any sort of regulation of commerce was Marxist. But as it stands, a political cartoon doesn't prove your claim.


The Rockefellers aren't interested in the "redistribution of wealth" part. They're interested in the consolidation of wealth and control part.
Without the redistribution part, it ain't communism. When people just accumulate wealth and keep it, that's called capitalism.

The trusts were formed because Rockefeller was challenged by the Supreme Court of the US under the Sherman Anti-Trust act of 1890, and it was becoming obvious to everyone that his dynasty was becoming problematic for the United States.
No, trusts were formed, and still are formed, so that different companies producing the same goods and services can avoid market competition. If consumers can choose, then companies will try to earn their business by offering a more attractive product, usually through lower price and/or better quality. Better quality increases production costs.

If the companies agree not to compete, by, say, dividing the market into territories, or price fixing, then they can charge a lot more money for goods and services that are less expensive to produce.

Hence his famous quote:
Hence Nelson Rockefeller's quote: "The secret to success is to own nothing, but control everything.”

Nelson Rockefeller was talking about distributing his wealth in ways that would protect it from things like lawsuits or taxes. He was talking about things like setting up a family trust partnership in an offshore tax haven. That's how rich people keep the government from taxing them. The fact that you think Nelson Rockefeller was talking about some sort communist economic plan just shows how truly ignorant of this subject you are.
 
Henry Kissinger, Rockefeller's stooge diplomat, with the help of President Nixon laid the groundwork for the ascent of China during Nixon's visit in 1972. Why would a "capitalist" banker tycoon Like David Rockefeller visit China in 1973 fresh after of the murder of sixty million (that's 60,000,000) people by Mao Tse-tung during the Chinese Communist Color Revolution that Rockefeller himself financed, unless he was sympathetic to communism?

He literally fawned over Chairman Mao, the murderer of sixty million people, before he profited from the rise of China, and the simultaneous export of US manufacturing to the same communists in the coming decades.

So I point out that the grandson's views on China have no bearing on J.D. Rockefeller's alleged sympathy for communism, and you dive further into your theories about David Rockefeller.
 
Lol. This is so beautiful. In doing some research about Room 5600 (I learned most of this stuff years ago), I came across this Vanity Fair article:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/11/rockefeller-family-leaving-30-rockefeller-center

with this priceless revelation:



What say you, "skeptics"? Was this more of a "WTF, we never told you to depict Lenin smiling so hard!!!" or "Uhh, you know, maybe this isn't such a good look, bro. Lets remove it."

I love you guys. Group hug?

Wait, so the Rockefellers being pissed off that an artist they hired to paint a mural snuck in a glorification of Communism, then painted over it when he refused to change it, is evidence that they were communists?
 
You like how I found that part where the Rockefellers hired the avowed Marxist to paint a communist mural, and then decided it probably wasn't a good idea, don't you?

But that's not what you found. You found an article about how they hired a famous artist to paint a mural that didn't have any glorification of Marxism, and then demanded he change it. When he refused, they had it altered, effectively destroying it as an original artwork.

The way you twist it around to serve your narrative is rather like the way narcissistic manipulators and gaslighters work.
 
1. I doubt Trump can spell the word, "Communist".


Trump wouldn't know a Communist if one walked up to him, slapped him on the ass, and then sang three verses of a song to the tune of Gilbert & Sullivan's "I am the Pirate King" called "I am a Communist."
 
Trump wouldn't know a Communist if one walked up to him, slapped him on the ass, and then sang three verses of a song to the tune of Gilbert & Sullivan's "I am the Pirate King" called "I am a Communist."

Donny doesn't know music, even G&S, because he is a knuckle-dragging troglodyte. He has minions listen to that crap for him.
 
Trump wouldn't know a Communist if one walked up to him, slapped him on the ass, and then sang three verses of a song to the tune of Gilbert & Sullivan's "I am the Pirate King" called "I am a Communist."

Not "I am the very model of a modern Commie terrorist"?
 

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