Cancel culture IRL

[dirtywick]

Maybe you already litigated this...why do you think their intentions are bad?

I think that people who dishonestly manipulate an event to their own benefit regardless of the harm it causes others, or do that to try and harm people they don't like are acting with bad intentions. I would also include people committing crimes using social media as bad actors.

 

[BobTheCoward]

I think that people who dishonestly manipulate an event to their own benefit regardless of the harm it causes others, or do that to try and harm people they don't like are acting with bad intentions. I would also include people committing crimes using social media as bad actors.

Okay. So honest doxxing is not bad acting?

 

[d4m10n]

So honest doxxing is not bad acting?

Are there good examples of well-intentioned doxxing? Perhaps i.d.'ing Capitol rioters?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Are there good examples of well-intentioned doxxing? Perhaps i.d.'ing Capitol rioters?

I'm not sure what well intentioned or bad intentioned means in this context.

 

[dirtywick]

Okay. So honest doxxing is not bad acting?

I've never heard of honest doxxing so I'm not going to try and attempt to answer this question. If you have a point you'd like to make you can just say what you mean.

 

[d4m10n]

I'm not sure what ... bad intentioned means in this context.

Same as "intentions are bad" at #2920.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Same as "intentions are bad" at #2920.

Which is why that was a question. I don't know.

 

[autumn1971]

If only there were some way to register disapproval directly to Kroger/Andy without trying to summon an unaccountable online mob (with little to no access to facts on the ground) to mete out consequences based on viral outrage.

What consequence? That the manager considered the actions and made a decision? Like any manager in the history of capitalism has done?
Seriously. A complaint was made, was considered, and was found groundless.
Other times a complaint is found to be grounds for being suspended or dismissed.
Occasionally a complaint is officially deemed a possible criminal act, or one subject to civil penalties, and those are dealt with accordingly.

What the hell is the problem? It. Is. Not. New.
It
Is
How
Jobs
Work

And life. If you don’t want to hear someone because they hurt your feelings, then avoid them. It is infinitely easier in the case of on-line harassment.

Turn off your device for two weeks.

The harasser has actually probably done you a favor by making you take time off from useless anxiety.

 

[d4m10n]

What consequence?

Who knows? Anything can happen once you've gone viral. Sometimes it's losing a job, sometimes it's getting doxxed and death threats. Sometimes (as in this case) it's nothing all that bad. Don't pretend Danielle could have known the actual consequences in advance, though. She put Andy's livelihood and privacy at risk, knowingly, with zero assurance of how it would play out.

 

[autumn1971]

Are there good examples of well-intentioned doxxing? Perhaps i.d.'ing Capitol rioters?

If someone exposes a probable criminally or civilly actionable offense, then that is good doxxing.

On this board there are folks who might have views some of us view as reprehensible, but until it crosses a line that is defined either in the MA or in law, we can only deal with it like adults.

I am speaking, of course, of those who like pineapple on pizza and ferret owners.

 

[autumn1971]

Who knows? Anything can happen once you've gone viral. Sometimes it's losing a job, sometimes it's getting doxxed and death threats. Sometimes (as in this case) it's nothing all that bad. Don't pretend Danielle could have known that in advance, though. She put Andy's livelihood and privacy at risk, knowingly, with no assurance of how it would play out.

Again, a complaint was registered.
That’s all.
If management finds it credible, you may well be censured.

How is any of this nonsense different from a customer complaint 50 years ago?
“Viral” is meaningless. Businesses that pay attention to these complaints will soon run out of staff.

I define myself as a modern socialist, but the market does, the vast majority of the time, work in weeding out businesses that pay heed to inconsequential idiots.

 

[Emily's Cat]

Are there good examples of well-intentioned doxxing? Perhaps i.d.'ing Capitol rioters?

I've never heard of honest doxxing so I'm not going to try and attempt to answer this question. If you have a point you'd like to make you can just say what you mean.

Providing the real life contact information to the proper authorities, of a person committing criminal acts and hiding behind anonymity *might* constitute "honest doxxing". Not sure if that actually qualifies as doxxing though.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Are we including public information as doxxing? If someone never violates a TOS while gathering and publishing, is that a problem?

 

[d4m10n]

How is any of this nonsense different from a customer complaint 50 years ago?

In days gone by, complaints to corner stores were not viewable by hundreds of millions of people; the potential for shaming was highly localized.

 

[autumn1971]

In days gone by, complaints to corner stores were not viewable by hundreds of millions of people; the potential for shaming was highly localized.

In real terms, not hurtz mah feelzies terms, how does this matter to functional adults?

 

[BobTheCoward]

In days gone by, complaints to corner stores were not viewable by hundreds of millions of people; the potential for shaming was highly localized.

So?

 

[Samson]

N word unchained

I am curious that Django Unchained was able to be made and distributed in a nation where Huck Finn can't be taught.

 

[d4m10n]

In real terms, not hurtz mah feelzies terms, how does this matter to functional adults?

Anything can happen once you've gone viral. Sometimes it's losing a job, sometimes it's getting doxxed and death threats.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

I am curious that Django Unchained was able to be made and distributed in a nation where Huck Finn can't be taught.

It is the book's placement in academia that makes it a frequent target. Opens right up to the "think of the children!" line.

 

[Samson]

It is the book's placement in academia that makes it a frequent target. Opens right up to the "think of the children!" line.

Interesting.
The world would seem poorer were either creative endeavour to be expunged.