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Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment p3

Samson said:
The fix in the current case is to disarm off duty police entering apartment buildings.
Learn and change things, and thank this hapless woman for the lesson rather than punish.
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"Don't murder mother *******" is a lesson we all had down pat, without the hapless live-action display by Officer Reaper. Maybe we should thank Jean for being dead in Guygers lesson? That was pretty chill of him to get murdered to let us know that murder is not good.
 
There's no way Samson's argument is being made in good faith. I assume it's to get a rise out of people as the absurdity of it is off the charts.

Let people who kill someone go because they taught a lesson? It makes no sense. We'd have Manson, Dahmer, Son of Sam, RTK, and all of the other serial murderers on the street as well. They all "taught" police something.
 
Thermal said:
"Don't murder mother *******" is a lesson we all had down pat, without the hapless live-action display by Officer Reaper. Maybe we should thank Jean for being dead in Guygers lesson? That was pretty chill of him to get murdered to let us know that murder is not good.
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There is evil lurking in many hearts in the corrective system including the highest in the judiciary, Antonin Scalia was a posterboy for this syndrome.
Please expand on the evil lurking in Guyger's heart and stop being so obtuse to the point I am trying to make.
 
Samson said:
There is evil lurking in many hearts in the corrective system including the highest in the judiciary, Antonin Scalia was a posterboy for this syndrome.
Please expand on the evil lurking in Guyger's heart and stop being so obtuse to the point I am trying to make.
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A murderer is sentenced to 10 years and that's where you want to make some nebulous point about the unfairness of the justice system? No.
 
Babbylonian said:
A murderer is sentenced to 10 years and that's where you want to make some nebulous point about the unfairness of the justice system? No.
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And, further to your point, she's eligible for parole in about 3 years, and she's getting her fair shot at an appeal.
 
Samson said:
There is evil lurking in many hearts in the corrective system including the highest in the judiciary, Antonin Scalia was a posterboy for this syndrome.
Please expand on the evil lurking in Guyger's heart and stop being so obtuse to the point I am trying to make.
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I'll have a go - without doing even the most basic target identification she opened fire on someone who wasn't a threat to her, and was in his own home. For all she knew he was an authorized maintenance worker there to work on an emergency gas leak in what she mistakenly thought was her home, yet still she blasted away. I consider that callous disregard for human life to be pretty ******* evil.
 
Babbylonian said:
A murderer is sentenced to 10 years and that's where you want to make some nebulous point about the unfairness of the justice system? No.
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Why not?
Crime and punishment is a complex field. Let's be duly respectful and quit the echo chamber this thread has become.
Innocent man shot dead by the police a bad thing?
Sure is, but innocent man hanged because due process is followed. A bad thing too, accompanied by premeditated evil, and inaccessible to retribution.
 
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Joe Random said:
I'll have a go - without doing even the most basic target identification she opened fire on someone who wasn't a threat to her, and was in his own home. For all she knew he was an authorized maintenance worker there to work on an emergency gas leak in what she mistakenly thought was her home, yet still she blasted away. I consider that callous disregard for human life to be pretty ******* evil.
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How often had she shown callous disregard for.human life previously?
If there is propensity evidence I will happily reconsider.
 
Samson said:
How often had she shown callous disregard for.human life previously?
If there is propensity evidence I will happily reconsider.
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Seriously your response is on the level of "I mean, how many buildings did the hijacker's fly planes into before this one?", or "but did he have a track record of sodomizing 14 year olds, or was it a kooky one-off?". Is this some sort of internet performance art I'm not getting, or what?
 
Joe Random said:
Seriously your response is on the level of "I mean, how many buildings did the hijacker's fly planes into before this one?", or "but did he have a track record of sodomizing 14 year olds, or was it a kooky one-off?". Is this some sort of internet performance art I'm not getting, or what?
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The hijackers' performance art was premeditated.
That is the difference.
Accidents look easily avoided with a backward glance. I see nothing here that tells me she was anything but badly trained and lacking appropriate psychological profiling before being armed to the hilt and told to protect the people.
But.
Live by the sword. and die by the sword. This is your America.
 
Samson said:
Why not?
Crime and punishment is a complex field. Let's be duly respectful and quit the echo chamber this thread has become.
Innocent man shot dead by the police a bad thing?
Sure is, but innocent man hanged because due process is followed. A bad thing too, accompanied by premeditated evil, and inaccessible to retribution.
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Your opinion on this appears indicative of a pathology. This murderer got about the best deal any murderer is likely to get from any justice system on the planet. Any argument against her [just] sentence as too harsh is insane unless it comes with strong evidence that she didn't pull the trigger.
 
Samson said:
<...> I see nothing here that tells me she was anything but badly trained and lacking appropriate psychological profiling <...>
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"As your Captain let me just apologize for not having seen that great stonking iceberg that was in front of us ; Mea Culpa".

On an unrelated note, anyone know of a reliable brand of "Professional Contrarian" detectors? Turns out mine was broken.
 
Joe Random said:
"As your Captain let me just apologize for not having seen that great stonking iceberg that was in front of us ; Mea Culpa".

On an unrelated note, anyone know of a reliable brand of "Professional Contrarian" detectors? Turns out mine was broken.
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Try reading judgements designed for one purpose.
Upholding the system and think of the victim there.
You might be surprised where this leads. For me it has wrecked my belief in country and Scalia does the same in America.
These guys should be shot like dogs.
 
Samson said:
Try reading judgements designed for one purpose.
Upholding the system and think of the victim there.
You might be surprised where this leads. For me it has wrecked my belief in country and Scalia does the same in America.
These guys should be shot like dogs.
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That sound? That's me NOPEing the **** out of treating you seriously.
 
jimbob said:
The charts did show that.

Similarly, and also in WWII, the US adopted a new helmet. The medics soon reported seeing more of particular types of serious headwounds. Which they thought might indicate a design flaw, until they saw that it was people surviving previously-fatal shrapnel or shots .
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No, that was WW1 and the introduction of the helmet in to British use in the trenches.
 
Joe Random said:
That sound? That's me NOPEing the **** out of treating you seriously.
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What? Just because he seems to have an obsession with a Supreme Court justice who's been dead for years? Or because he's implying that murderers should get a mulligan their first time?

Yeah, either way you've got the right of it.
 
Babbylonian said:
What? Just because he seems to have an obsession with a Supreme Court justice who's been dead for years? Or because he's implying that murderers should get a mulligan their first time?

Yeah, either way you've got the right of it.
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These are American cases.
Scalia presided over the murder of Cameron Todd Willingham and was not called to account and never risked his life.

Guyger has been called to account after risking her life every day.
 
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