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The behaviour of US police officers

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Nessie said:
Any death that happens during an arrest, or once someone has been arrested and is detained by the police, is a death in custody. The report I linked to specifically ensured it was comparing like with like.
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I don't think the report includes deaths at the hands of the police or deaths during the arrest process, just deaths once the arrest has been successfully made:

The Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) is responsible for collating and publishing statistics on deaths following police contact in England and Wales. Its statistics include:
- road traffic fatalities;
- fatal shootings;
- deaths in police custody;
- apparent suicides following police custody; and
- other deaths following police contact that are subject to independent investigation bythe IPCC.

However, the deaths under review by Dame Elish do not all fall under a single category of deaths following police contact. For the purpose of this report therefore, the two most relevant
categories are used:
- deaths in or following police custody; and
- apparent suicide following police custody
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There were 14 cases in the UK in 2017. Scaling for rate and population that would mean that around 100 people were killed by the police in the US if it included all people killed by the police.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

The number in the US is around 1,000 - approximately 70 times the rate in UK or well over 10 times the per capita UK rate.
 
The Don said:
I don't think the report includes deaths at the hands of the police or deaths during the arrest process, just deaths once the arrest has been successfully made:



There were 14 cases in the UK in 2017. Scaling for rate and population that would mean that around 100 people were killed by the police in the US if it included all people killed by the police.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

The number in the US is around 1,000 - approximately 70 times the rate in UK or well over 10 times the per capita UK rate.
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Page 9, "The definitions used by the IPCC for deaths in or following police custody cover deaths that occur while a person is being arrested or taken into detention...". It then goes on to explain how they had to modify what was compared due to the differing international definitions and availability of statistics.
 
Nessie said:
Page 9, "The definitions used by the IPCC for deaths in or following police custody cover deaths that occur while a person is being arrested or taken into detention...". It then goes on to explain how they had to modify what was compared due to the differing international definitions and availability of statistics.
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:o

Fact remains that US police kill around 1,000 a year, UK police well under 20.
 
Florida deputy facing 52 count indictment for planting drugs during vehicle stops and making false arrests. At least 11 victims are known.

A search of the deputy's car found a stash of drugs and paraphernalia at the ready to frame innocent people.

During the internal probe, his coworkers searched his vehicle and found a wealth of unmarked evidence, including 42 pieces of drug paraphernalia, 10 baggies of meth and five baggies of marijuana. The items were similar to those he planted on drivers, investigators said.
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https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/2020/02/10/accused-drug-planting-deputy-slapped-two-dozen-new-charges/4670519002/

Fears, who is among more than two dozen people suing Wester and the Sheriff’s Office in federal court, said he couldn’t discuss his case in detail because of the litigation. However, he acknowledged Wester’s arrest completely upended his life.

“When he arrested me, I lost my job and I had to pretty much sell everything I had that was worth anything to keep a roof over my head,” Fears said. “I couldn’t find a job because nobody wanted to hire somebody with a fresh meth arrest. Me and my wife split up for a while over that because it was just so damn stressful.”
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The people known to have been framed are almost certainly just the tip of the iceberg for this predator.
 
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SuburbanTurkey said:
Florida deputy facing 52 count indictment for planting drugs during vehicle stops and making false arrests. At least 11 victims are known.

A search of the deputy's car found a stash of drugs and paraphernalia at the ready to frame innocent people.

…snip…
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I can imagine a surreal defence - “My client has been framed by the police and that evidence was planted, here is a statement from my expert witness in regards to police planting evidence”, presents a statement by his client.
 
Nessie said:
According to Inquest it is an average of 37 deaths in custody a year in England and Wales alone;

https://www.inquest.org.uk/deaths-in-police-custody

Add that to shootings and it is 39 a year. Add in Scotland and NI and those figures will be in the 40s, double your claim.
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OK.

The US population is approximately 6 times that of the UK. That would make 250-300 deaths at the hands of the police if the populations were the same.

In the US there are around 1,000 police shootings annually.
 
Nessie said:
According to Inquest it is an average of 37 deaths in custody a year in England and Wales alone;

https://www.inquest.org.uk/deaths-in-police-custody

Add that to shootings and it is 39 a year. Add in Scotland and NI and those figures will be in the 40s, double your claim.
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To get to that number you have to include people killed during vehicular pursuits and road traffic accident. Deaths in custody and police shootings account for a little over half that number.

The US number of around 1,000 is only for shootings.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Cop shot unarmed black man 10 times because he was holding a cordless phone. He was on the phone with 911 dispatch when it happened.
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I love how whenever a cop "mistakes" what a black man is holding it's always for something more dangerous, but when they "mistake" what they are holding it's always something less dangerous.

Eventually a cop will see a black guy holding a cell phone, mistake it for a gun, go to pull his taser but accidently pull his gun and... that will be the end of the universe. Every elementary particle in the universe and every fundamental force of nature will go "Welp, that's it. Yep not point in going past now, just wrap it up boys."
 
Two D.C. police cars were totaled after officers decided to drag race each other, according to an internal email obtained exclusively by FOX 5’s Lindsay Watts.

"Yesterday two 6D scout cars were totaled because officers decided instead of fighting crime, patrolling their beats, or engaging the community – they decided to drag race each other on Anacostia Avenue at 5 pm in the evening," reads the email from 6D Commander Durriyyah Habeebullah.
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https://www.fox5dc.com/news/dc-cop-cars-totaled-after-officers-drag-race-in-ne-says-commander

Cops drag racing through a residential area crashed through a home's fence and totaled two cop cars.

Cops have utter contempt for the communities they police.
 
Yeah I "get" that since they are on the road a lot patrol officers are going to be involved in more than their statistical share of accidents and I don't fault them for that.

But ah not drag racing.
 
Home surveillance system catches cop beating up 17 year old kid with autism.

A Ring doorbell captured footage of a police officer in Vacaville, California, throwing a 17-year-old to the ground and punching him in the face on Wednesday, according to the teen's father. The teen's father posted the now viral video of the incident on Facebook, saying that his son, Preston, has autism and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and that "he looks and acts younger than he is."

The incident occurred Wednesday afternoon, Adam Wolf wrote on Facebook, when Preston was "aggressively approached" by a Vacaville police officer.
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/preston-adam-wolf-autism-california-police-punch/

The officer then replies, "You're gonna get hurt. Don't make me hurt you more. Don't make me hurt you more."
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There's the professionalism we've come to expect in the US.
 
Looks like the cops did another murder. Riot squad coming out in anticipation of the bodycam footage being released today.

ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. (WAVY) — Elizabeth City, North Carolina, has declared a state of emergency ahead of the release of body camera footage of the law enforcement killing of Andrew Brown Jr. last week.

The 42-year-old was shot and killed by deputies last Wednesday during the execution of a search warrant. Witnesses have said Brown was driving away at the time and deputies fired several rounds, killing him.

After the shooting, seven deputies were placed on administrative leave and three resigned. The three who resigned were not directly involved in the shooting, Pasquotank Sheriff Tommy Wooten said. One was nearing retirement.
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https://twitter.com/WAVY_News/status/1386662314292690946

Video expected to be released sometime today after 11:30 AM Eastern time.
 
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