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The behaviour of US police officers

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Captain_Swoop said:
"Taser, taser, taser, oh ****, I just shot him."
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I simply can't wait to see what 40 page long, hill they simply won't stop defending, "No you're the one causing the hijack!" alternative universe fan fiction about what the black person should have done we're going to hear to explain that one away.
 
So a list of things LEO's can't remember.

- Which is their gun and which their taser.
- Which apartment they live in.
- What commands they actually gave suspects.
- That you need oxygen to live.
 
JoeMorgue said:
So a list of things LEO's can't remember.

- Which is their gun and which their taser.
- Which apartment they live in.
- What commands they actually gave suspects.
- That you need oxygen to live.
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It isn't easy being a cop!
 
JoeMorgue said:
I simply can't wait to see what 40 page long, hill they simply won't stop defending, "No you're the one causing the hijack!" alternative universe fan fiction about what the black person should have done we're going to hear to explain that one away.
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Well at least she calls for the taser on cam. That's at least more believable than an after-the-fact claim.
 
Sounds like pretty easy probable cause for an arrest for manslaughter at the very least. When's there going to be a warrant for this pig?
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
All available evidence indicates that the police are prolific domestic abusers. I would not anyone I care about to be married to or dating a cop.
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I know lots of cops. My best friend is about the nicest person you will ever meet. His sister is a police officer as is her husband. So is his brother in law and his father in law. They are all incredibly kind. I hate seeing blanket statements against any group.

But you're right, the rate of domestic violence committed by police officers is 2 to 4 times what it is in the general population. Nevertheless, what stuns me about this story is how police officers are treated. This police officer who killed his wife was never even charged.
 
acbytesla said:
But you're right, the rate of domestic violence committed by police officers is 2 to 4 times what it is in the general population. Nevertheless, what stuns me about this story is how police officers are treated. This police officer who killed his wife was never even charged.
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What do you expect, they are trained to deal with the merest hint of noncompliance with overwhelming force, why wouldn't that seep into their home life?
 
"But what about all the black people I didn't shoot when I only meant to taze them? Nobody's talking about them!"
 
Clearly no intent in this one. The department needs to review it's training and practices to ensure taser and sidearm are well separated.

It's also possible, perhaps likely that they train more with the sidearm than the taser, people tend to default to what they have trained the most in stressful situations. If so this is IMO closer to the real problem with police and police training.
 
ponderingturtle said:
What do you expect, they are trained to deal with the merest hint of noncompliance with overwhelming force, why wouldn't that seep into their home life?
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That's not how they're trained. My friend is an FTO. (field training officer). I've done ride alongs with him. Cops face almost constant verbal abuse on the job. They are taught tolerance and judgement. They are also trained to be authoritative. You can't do the job if you can't impose yourself.

The problem is the tolerance wears down on many of them and being authoritative is intoxicating. They have to know when and how to shut it off.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Sounds like pretty easy probable cause for an arrest for manslaughter at the very least. When's there going to be a warrant for this pig?
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I was thinking that, but I think manslaughter still requires you be doing something out of the ordinary that is reckless or dangerous. possibly non-criminal negligence charges could be the extend of it.
 
One of my buddies is a former LAPD officer. He told me that the taser and his sidearm were always worn on different sides of the body, per department rules. So, a right-hander would have their sidearm on their right side and their taser on the left. He also said that they weigh diiferently and have different feels. He said there was no way he could "accidentally" pull his gun when needing his taser and that if someone did they should never have been a LEO in the first place.

ETA: Maybe some of our resident LEOs could weigh in on this?
 
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chrispy said:
One of my buddies is a former LAPD officer. He told me that the taser and his sidearm were always worn on different sides of the body, per department rules. So, a right-hander would have their sidearm on their right side and their taser on the left. He also said that they weigh diiferently and have different feels. He said there was no way he could "accidentally" pull his gun when needing his taser and that if someone did they should never have been a LEO in the first place.

ETA: Maybe some of our resident LEOs could weigh in on this?
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They have totally different feels. A Glock 17 weighs a hair over 2 pounds. A X2 TASER weighs just under a pound.
 
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