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For ALL you vaccine Lovers, latest Data on Injuries/Deaths from them:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=9af36675-e8d3-4040-a6be-abcb46990996

This kind of privileged stupidity really grinds my gears. Other more appropriate Anglo-Saxon epithets breach the T&Cs.

You have had vaccines. The sad fact that you continue to walk among us is a product of that. Not your supplements, not aligning your chakras and alkalising your pineal gland, but vaccines and technology and everything else your privileged carcass benefits from but which you seem to think other people don't deserve.

There are people dying painful deaths because they don't have access to the medical treatments from which you have benefitted directly, and by proxy, because the people around you have retained the good sense you were born with and been vaccinated. You are not taking care of your self as you claim, you are leeching off other people's health care. People who refuse vaccines are nothing more than tapeworms parasitising those who do.

You make wild and grossly inaccurate generalisations about other people's choices, masquerading it as some kind of campaign for freedom when really you just want to show off how pure you are and deny people their right to choose.

If you want to divest yourself of the shackles the 21st century has gifted you, go live in a cave, grow your own food, make your own clothes and stop hectoring people who neither want nor care about your backwards views.

As long as you don't have the good grace to admit your own hypocrisy and own up to your mistakes your half-baked prejudices are worthless and unwanted.
 
Yes, and they were declared. As he has no power to agree government contracts, I fail to see how this is a conflict of interest.
It also shouldn't be too surprising that the UK government should negotiate contracts with all of the major pharmaceutical companies to secure a good supply. GSK is one of those companies. I would have been more surprised if they hadn't at least approached them.
If you have evidence that Valance has exerted undue influence, you should present it.



Good grief. You surely must realise that, in this day and age, there is no reason why Cummings had to be there in person to negotiate a contract. Have you heard of Zoom? Skype? Heck, even email?
Furthermore, the Barnard Castle plant is a manufacturing hub. Do you know if they have the authority to negotiate on a company-wide basis with the UK government there? Is there any record of GSK executives travelling up from London to meet Cummings?
(Yes. GSK's global HQ is in London. Quite why they would all drive hundreds of miles to Barnard Castle and back, when they could have met up in London far more easily, is another question for you to consider.)



You appear to be unaware of the costs involved in developing new medicines, and also of the varying approaches by the major players to the issue of profits.
Some reading for you:
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma...-should-forgo-profits-covid-19-vaccine-report

O Corona! O Profits!
 
I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

You started ignoring requests as soon as you appeared here: you still haven't answered questions about your claim of science which supports homeopathy, for example. And you never have responded to anyone pointing out that links you post do not support your views or say exactly the opposite.

You never back up anything you say, just move on to the next piece of untruth - no wonder it's so hard for you to keep track of folk calling you out on lack of evidence, inaccuracies and utter nonsense, as well as what the uncharitable might call lies...

How is this "ignoring" any different from your general MO here?
 
You started ignoring requests as soon as you appeared here: you still haven't answered questions about your claim of science which supports homeopathy, for example. And you never have responded to anyone pointing out that links you post do not support your views or say exactly the opposite.

You never back up anything you say, just move on to the next piece of untruth - no wonder it's so hard for you to keep track of folk calling you out on lack of evidence, inaccuracies and utter nonsense, as well as what the uncharitable might call lies...

How is this "ignoring" any different from your general MO here?

You can basically apply this whole mantra to every single conspiracy theorist on every single dumb claim they make.
 
I was disappointed to see that Florida's governor signed an order banning vaccine passports. Once the vaccine has been widely available for a while, the vaccine passport would be a good way to create an unvaccinated underclass. Such an underclass probably wouldn't be long lived. If they want to go on a cruise or visit a theme park, sorry, you have to have the vaccine. If someone wont get the vaccine because they're just stupid, they might be coerced into getting it through discrimination.
 
What the heck even IS a vaccine passport? I got a little card (actually a bit too big for my wallet) showing the dates I got the shots and what type and batch number of vaccine it was. Is that a "passport"? Or is it the mark of the beast, or some Bill Gates conspiracy?
 
I was disappointed to see that Florida's governor signed an order banning vaccine passports. Once the vaccine has been widely available for a while, the vaccine passport would be a good way to create an unvaccinated underclass. Such an underclass probably wouldn't be long lived. If they want to go on a cruise or visit a theme park, sorry, you have to have the vaccine. If someone wont get the vaccine because they're just stupid, they might be coerced into getting it through discrimination.
On the other hand, elevating a behavioral choice to protected class status like immutable qualities (sex/race/disability/etc) brings troubles of its own.
 
What the heck even IS a vaccine passport? I got a little card (actually a bit too big for my wallet) showing the dates I got the shots and what type and batch number of vaccine it was. Is that a "passport"? Or is it the mark of the beast, or some Bill Gates conspiracy?
The little card is just a little card. The passport will be something that shows you were vaccinated in a way that is harder to counterfeit.

ETA: Just looked at my little card. It's official name printed at the top is "Covid-19 Vaccination Record Card".
 
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Choices have consequences. If someone chooses not to be vaccinated that is their right, but the consequences might legitimately be that there are certain places they cannot go - restaurants, planes, anywhere their freely made choice might endanger someone else's life
 
It appears that such passports will probably not be issued anyway, but of course the Florida governor, being the usual conservative crypto-communist, has jumped into the empty pool and made it against the law not only for state agencies to require proof of vaccination, but for private businesses to set standards to keep their clientele from killing them or others. Unless, of course, they have religious scruples that forbid service to LGBT folks. Then, it's freeeeeee-DOM! Everyone chant along.
 
What the heck even IS a vaccine passport? I got a little card (actually a bit too big for my wallet) showing the dates I got the shots and what type and batch number of vaccine it was. Is that a "passport"? Or is it the mark of the beast, or some Bill Gates conspiracy?

"Get them laminated," suggested the nurse at our second jabbing, and we did, for free, at Staples. If somebody wants to see them, we'll flash them with smug smiles. If Mr. Somebody claims to be authorized to see them, he'll get the same treatment. Because we are two of the many now vaccinated who are with the program of our own free Williams.

If we encounter DeSantis, we'll thrust them against his forehead, crying "It is the power of CHRISTIANism that commands ye!"

He'll blister and begin to smoke, I just know he will.
 
"Get them laminated," suggested the nurse at our second jabbing, and we did, for free, at Staples. If somebody wants to see them, we'll flash them with smug smiles. If Mr. Somebody claims to be authorized to see them, he'll get the same treatment. Because we are two of the many now vaccinated who are with the program of our own free Williams.

If we encounter DeSantis, we'll thrust them against his forehead, crying "It is the power of CHRISTIANism that commands ye!"

He'll blister and begin to smoke, I just know he will.
Another suggestion is just to photograph them on a smart phone.
 
"Get them laminated," suggested the nurse at our second jabbing, and we did, for free, at Staples. If somebody wants to see them, we'll flash them with smug smiles. If Mr. Somebody claims to be authorized to see them, he'll get the same treatment. Because we are two of the many now vaccinated who are with the program of our own free Williams.

If we encounter DeSantis, we'll thrust them against his forehead, crying "It is the power of CHRISTIANism that commands ye!"

He'll blister and begin to smoke, I just know he will.

Another suggestion is just to photograph them on a smart phone.

We did the latter; both cards on both phones.
 
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"Get them laminated," suggested the nurse at our second jabbing, and we did, for free, at Staples. If somebody wants to see them, we'll flash them with smug smiles. If Mr. Somebody claims to be authorized to see them, he'll get the same treatment. Because we are two of the many now vaccinated who are with the program of our own free Williams.

If we encounter DeSantis, we'll thrust them against his forehead, crying "It is the power of CHRISTIANism that commands ye!"

He'll blister and begin to smoke, I just know he will.

Another suggestion is just to photograph them on a smart phone.

We did the latter; both cards on both phones.

I was emailed a pdf copy before I walked out the door.
 
What the heck even IS a vaccine passport? I got a little card (actually a bit too big for my wallet) showing the dates I got the shots and what type and batch number of vaccine it was. Is that a "passport"? Or is it the mark of the beast, or some Bill Gates conspiracy?



Stand still please; Bill Gates and I are trying to pinpoint your location via RFID.
 
Stand still please; Bill Gates and I are trying to pinpoint your location via RFID.
I liked a Ryan Reynolds post a couple days ago with him getting a vac jab: "... finally getting 5G.". [emoji3]
Shouldn't laugh as more than a few will believe it, couldn't help it.
 
Please quote the post(s) in which you claim I have made up lies, or withdraw the accusation.

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

Translation:
"I don't know if you've called me a liar, but someone did, so I'm calling you a liar, and that's your fault."
Seriously: grow up.
I searched this thread for any occasion where I called you a liar. Couldn't find any.
Please quote a post of mine where I have called you a liar, and explain why you think that accusation- should it exist- is unjustified. Or withdraw that accusation.
Please quote me lying, or withdraw that accusation as well.
Behaving like a petulant child is really no way to deal with a grown-up conversation. I have repeatedly attempted to engage with you, civilly and reasonably. You have responded by throwing all your toys out of the pram and then sulking. If this is how you react to people who try to talk to you, it should come as no surprise to you that some of those people will respond uncivilly. Try acting your age (whatever that might be): you would be a better ambassador for your perspective, and you would provoke fewer uncivil reactions.

ETA: I have gone back through Caroline13's threads, and I cannot find a single instance where I have called her a liar. I am prepared to be wrong about this: Caroline13, can we say that same about you? Have I ever called you a liar?
 
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"Get them laminated," suggested the nurse at our second jabbing, and we did, for free, at Staples.

I was advised the opposite. Don’t laminate because should boosters become necessary you can’t update the card. Mine has 4 spaces after second dose marked “other.”
 
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