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Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Caroline13 said:
I did NOT, and stop making up lies as you all do.

Here is Dr. Dolores Cahill on Mrna Gene Therapy vaccines.

https://citizenfreepress.com/column...sues-chilling-warning-on-covid-mrna-vaccines/
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Oh, my apologies- you didn't think DNA was a preservative, you just thought deoxyribonucleic acid might be one because you couldn't be bothered to look it up before declaring an opinion about it. But people here should definitely believe that you've done and understood your research on vaccines, mRNA, or gene therapy well enough to be able to understand the science there- you're not just accepting what your screwball sources say because it's what you want to hear, you really do get this stuff, like you should have been a doctor or something.

Well, that's nice, dear- tend your knitting.
 
turingtest said:
Up until a week or so ago, Caroline thought DNA was some kind of preservative. There's not a chance in the world that her understanding of the science involved here has advanced far enough that any explanations of why the claims in the link are wrong will ever get through to her. At this point, the only reasonable response to posts by Caroline would be along the lines of a metaphorical pat on the head and "that's nice, dear. Tend your knitting."
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A friend of my sister, who is the same age Caroline claims to be, is a reiki practitioner. She's devoted a good deal of her life to promoting this particular brand of BS, there's no chance of convincing her it's worthless, so I do my best to avoid the subject. Once, though, she told my sister in my presence that she'd read that apricot seeds prevent/cure cancer, and when I asked if there was evidence assured me there was loads. Out of curiosity I researched it when I got home and discovered that careful testing back in the 70s had shown that this particular crackpot remedy was not only worthless but was actually harmful - apricot seeds contain cyanide, and taking them in the quantities recommended had put many people into a coma. I emailed her the links, and to my surprise she took notice. She later told me she'd bought a load of apricot seeds and was going to give them to everyone she knew (including my sister), but after reading the links I sent her (which included a BBC report that the WHO had taken the unusual step of issuing a warning) she had thrown them away.

I think the key to whether it's possible to reach someone like that is the extent of their emotional investment in the particular type of woo. I'd never convince my sister's friend that reiki is nothing but placebo as her whole identity is wrapped up in it, but this she had just picked up from a source she (unwisely) trusted so it wasn't too late to steer her away.
 
I take Caroline's silence regarding my last question as an indication that she most likely doesn't believe in humanoid demons or a global Satanic conspiracy to sacrifice children to Satan and use their blood to achieve eternal youth. I mean, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if she embraced that crap she'd have defended it. This confirms, for me, what seems transparently obvious - that she's just frantically searching for any sort of authority figure to confirm her beliefs. As soon as she finds anything, she posts it here without any further investigation. It's pretty much the same thing a couple of others have been doing in this thread, which is why we've had so many citations of anti-Semites, unqualified/discredited "experts", believers in shape-shifting aliens and humanoid demons, and Q nuts.

I wonder if they ever consider why it is that when they specifically dip the well for defenders of their COVID-19 conspiracy theories, they invariably come up with a bucket of bat **** crazy.
 
Foster Zygote said:
I take Caroline's silence regarding my last question as an indication that she most likely doesn't believe in humanoid demons or a global Satanic conspiracy to sacrifice children to Satan and use their blood to achieve eternal youth. I mean, I could be wrong, but it seems to me that if she embraced that crap she'd have defended it. This confirms, for me, what seems transparently obvious - that she's just frantically searching for any sort of authority figure to confirm her beliefs. As soon as she finds anything, she posts it here without any further investigation. It's pretty much the same thing a couple of others have been doing in this thread, which is why we've had so many citations of anti-Semites, unqualified/discredited "experts", believers in shape-shifting aliens and humanoid demons, and Q nuts.

I wonder if they ever consider why it is that when they specifically dip the well for defenders of their COVID-19 conspiracy theories, they invariably come up with a bucket of bat **** crazy.
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I too have brought this up over and over, and generally the response is just another link to another crackpot with a slightly different blend of bat-guano puree.

I suspect she does not carefully read even the pages she links to, much less the rest of the sites. And like most of the ultra-right we see here, she is unwilling or unable ever to admit to an error. Criticism is either ignored or called a lie, or nit-picked over language. You can't, for example, say Caroline ever said DNA was a preservative, only deoxyribonucleic acid.

I suspect one of the problems with many people these days in pursuit of some grail is that they just don't care about anything else. We have seen the enormous mess made, in large part I think, by people whose goal was getting a right wing Supreme Court at any cost. Here, I suspect that Caroline has an anti-vax bee in her bonnet so intense that she simply doesn't care what kind of crap it tracks in with it. Demons and blood-drinking conspirators, the destruction of democracy, religious monarchy, ethnic hatred, name calling, all that stuff is just collateral damage in the great war for anti-vax truth.

I suspect Caroline will not admit to simple carelessness, but it is, whether or not it appears so, the most charitable interpretation.
 
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bruto said:
I dipped briefly onto that site, ans it's basically the same mushbrained stuff that was on previous sites. The vaccines are poisons, and they'll kill us, and when they do, we'll blame the unvaccinated.

I was going to go on about this and that on the site, but for those who do not want to dive down that fetid rabbit orifice, I think the following quote should give a fair idea of the kind of minds we're dealing with here.



Classy stuff, Caroline. What a horrible world you must imagine yourself in!
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It is always safe to assume, based on Mike Adams' long history, that anything on Natural News is purest BS.
 
Caroline13 said:
I did NOT, and stop making up lies as you all do.
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Oh, yes you did, and then doubled down on it...Assuming you are talking about DNA being a preservative. It gets hard to tell among all the other spurious claims.

No-one has needed to make up lies: all anyone has needed to do is quote you or follow your links and point out that they don't say what you said they said or do a quick search in order to find that whichever organisation did not say what you said they said. All of which has been done I don't know how many times.
 
Resume said:
My fav.

Caroline13 said:
I don't have to look everything up, it's a preservative plain and simple...Anything hard to pronounce is probably not good to ingest, but foods are full of preservatives...
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Bwahahahahahahaha!!
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I forgot about that. Not only did she say it was probably a preservative, but she doubled down and said the above.
 
Foster Zygote said:
I forgot about that. Not only did she say it was probably a preservative, but she doubled down and said the above.
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Yeah, "careless" would indeed be a charitable framing of Caroline's overall methodology, but it would be really stressing charity out of shape to suggest that "I don't have to look everything up" in that context is anything more than simple bull-headed obstinacy and prideful ignorance.

And the "anything hard to pronounce is probably not good to ingest" bit is kind of funny too. Presumably, you want to avoid cholecalciferol in your diet, but just calling it "Vitamin D3" makes it ok.
 
Lplus said:
Novavax: Deal agreed to 'fill and finish' 60 million doses in UK.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-56570168

Vaccine to be made in Billingham.


The only question is how much each dose is going to cost
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Sir Patrick Valance has shares in GSK.

I never believed for one minute Dominic Cumming's trip to Barnard Castle was anything as trivial as testing his eyesight or treating his wife. Any fule kno' that is where GSK has major premises.

Revealed: Sir Patrick Vallance has £600,000 shareholding in firm contracted to develop vaccines
Government denies claims of potential conflict of interest, maintaining he is not involved in commercial decisions on coronavirus vaccines
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At the end of the day, pharma is big money, albeit commendable that they serve to improve the nation's health.
 
turingtest said:
Yeah, "careless" would indeed be a charitable framing of Caroline's overall methodology, but it would be really stressing charity out of shape to suggest that "I don't have to look everything up" in that context is anything more than simple bull-headed obstinacy and prideful ignorance.

And the "anything hard to pronounce is probably not good to ingest" bit is kind of funny too. Presumably, you want to avoid cholecalciferol in your diet, but just calling it "Vitamin D3" makes it ok.
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Yeah, I asked her about that.

I wonder if that concern extends to international cuisine?
 
turingtest said:
And the "anything hard to pronounce is probably not good to ingest" bit is kind of funny too. Presumably, you want to avoid cholecalciferol in your diet, but just calling it "Vitamin D3" makes it ok.
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Don't you know that cholecalciferol is approved by the government for use as rat poison? It can't be good for you.


(Rodenticide products contain a dosage high enough relative to body weight to cause hypervitaminosis and hypercalcemia in rodents.)
 
Foster Zygote said:
Yeah, I asked her about that.

I wonder if that concern extends to international cuisine?
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More to the point, is it things you can't personally pronounce (in which case I suspect some members of this forum are effectively unpoisonable) or things that no-one can pronounce?

Asking for an ex-President Caroline probably supports who really doesn't want to give up the hamburders.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
Asking for an ex-President Caroline probably supports who really doesn't want to give up the hamburders.
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My little brother used to pronounce it, “hanga-ba-gurgurs,” which is way harder than the correct pronunciation. Thus, he never became President


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Anyone have recommendations for history about regular folk?
 
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