Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

[bruto]

Especially for someone who advocates taking dehydroepiandrosterone as a supplement.

The more so, considering that in the same thread where she said this, she made a point that she eschews artificial and synthetic drugs because there's "nothing earthy about them," but in the DHEA thread, when it was pointed out that all DHEA supplements are synthetic, she imperiously stated: "Of course it's synthetic, you think the producers cut it out of young people's bodies and put it in older ones in the form of a supplement??? duhhhh "

Classy as always.

 

[Foster Zygote]

More to the point, is it things you can't personally pronounce (in which case I suspect some members of this forum are effectively unpoisonable) or things that no-one can pronounce?

Asking for an ex-President Caroline probably supports who really doesn't want to give up the hamburders.

And are gyros toxic if you pronounce it "jī-rō"?

 

[Carlotta]

My little brother used to pronounce it, “hanga-ba-gurgurs,” which is way harder than the correct pronunciation. Thus, he never became President


Edit*
Anyone have recommendations for history about regular folk?

If you're interested in documentaries, BBC Historic Farm series is a fun start.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

If you're interested in documentaries, BBC Historic Farm series is a fun start.

Or the BBC's "Back in Time for..." series

although it only lasted one season Channel 4's "24 Hours in the Past" is also worth a watch. Evenif only to see how quickly basic human empathy can bloom and die in Anne Widdicombe (a little less than a day as it happens).

 

[marting]

I'll gladly pay you tuesday......

 

[gabeygoat]

If you're interested in documentaries, BBC Historic Farm series is a fun start.

Thank you much!

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Sir Patrick Valance has shares in GSK.

Yes, and they were declared. As he has no power to agree government contracts, I fail to see how this is a conflict of interest.
It also shouldn't be too surprising that the UK government should negotiate contracts with all of the major pharmaceutical companies to secure a good supply. GSK is one of those companies. I would have been more surprised if they hadn't at least approached them.
If you have evidence that Valance has exerted undue influence, you should present it.

I never believed for one minute Dominic Cumming's trip to Barnard Castle was anything as trivial as testing his eyesight or treating his wife. Any fule kno' that is where GSK has major premises.

Good grief. You surely must realise that, in this day and age, there is no reason why Cummings had to be there in person to negotiate a contract. Have you heard of Zoom? Skype? Heck, even email?
Furthermore, the Barnard Castle plant is a manufacturing hub. Do you know if they have the authority to negotiate on a company-wide basis with the UK government there? Is there any record of GSK executives travelling up from London to meet Cummings?
(Yes. GSK's global HQ is in London. Quite why they would all drive hundreds of miles to Barnard Castle and back, when they could have met up in London far more easily, is another question for you to consider.)

At the end of the day, pharma is big money, albeit commendable that they serve to improve the nation's health.

You appear to be unaware of the costs involved in developing new medicines, and also of the varying approaches by the major players to the issue of profits.
Some reading for you:
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma...-should-forgo-profits-covid-19-vaccine-report

 

[Bob001]

.....
You appear to be unaware of the costs involved in developing new medicines, and also of the varying approaches by the major players to the issue of profits.
Some reading for you:
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma...-should-forgo-profits-covid-19-vaccine-report

From your link:

Bourla said recently that Pfizer was aiming for a “marginal profit” on its vaccine. But under the U.S. government deal, 1.3 billion doses priced at $19.50 each would translate to a whopping $13 billion in sales for Pfizer, after the BioNTech split, Barron’s analysts calculated. That’s about as much as Pfizer’s best-selling cholesterol drug Lipitor hauled in at its peak.

Nobody thinks corporations and their stockholders aren't entitled to a profit. The question is how much? Drug prices in the U.S. bear no relationship to the costs of development or manufacture.

 

[Carlotta]

Thank you much!

You're welcome! I'll be checking out "back in time for" myself.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

You're welcome! I'll be checking out "back in time for" myself.

They're quite recent history btw. There's also "The Street" & "The Corner Shop" also both BBC.

 

[Caroline13]

For ALL you vaccine Lovers, latest Data on Injuries/Deaths from them:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=9af36675-e8d3-4040-a6be-abcb46990996

 

[Caroline13]

Please quote the post(s) in which you claim I have made up lies, or withdraw the accusation.

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

 

[Foster Zygote]

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

No, you can't point out anywhere that Cosmic Yak lied. You accused CY of lying about you thinking that DNA was a preservative, but several people have linked directly to the posts in which you identify DNA as a preservative. When you denied having said that, you were either lying or experiencing memory problems. So don't act like you weren't wrong when you accused CY, and all of us, of lying.

 

[abaddon]

For ALL you vaccine Lovers, latest Data on Injuries/Deaths from them:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=9af36675-e8d3-4040-a6be-abcb46990996

Yet another crank site.

Are crank sites all you read?

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

That would not be a problem if you simply stopped lying.

 

[carlitos]

Yet another crank site.

Come on, the author of that site claims to have "extensive training in natural health," which qualifies her as an expert in ... being human?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

Oh FFS. Your own words have been quoted, with links back to your original posts. Claiming that people are lying for saying you wrote things that everyone can all see that you wrote is just pathetic. You owe the people you've accused of lying an apology, but frankly I don't think you have that much integrity.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me pointing out when I lie.

FTFY

 

[turingtest]

For ALL you vaccine Lovers, latest Data on Injuries/Deaths from them:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=9af36675-e8d3-4040-a6be-abcb46990996

I don't even attempt to keep track of all of you telling me I lie. So I'm ignoring any requests from you people.

Do you make any attempt to keep track of all the posts that request further information or honest discussion about these crackpot links you keep dropping here? Here's one, for example, from Cosmic Yak, who has been trying to engage you in conversation, with questions about your claim that vaccines have some meaningful rate of serious or fatal side effects-

Yup. Because knee-jerk reactions from a basis of complete ignorance are absolutely to be trusted.


How many, as a percentage of those vaccinated, have had noteworthy side-effects? Of those, how many were serious? How many were fatal? How many are long-term?Oh, that's right- you haven't a clue. No idea at all. Neither do you care.



We are. How about you? Not so much, methinks.



When I click this, I just get AOL's homepage. What is this supposed to prove?

Now, about those deaths you are predicting:
When do you predict this will happen?
How can mRNA produce new strains of a virus?
What is toxic about mRNA?
What evidence do you have for any of these claims and predictions?
If none of this actually happens, will you admit you were wrong?

Or are you just ignoring all posts from anyone in favor of dropping crap all over the thread? That's not the behavior of any honest truth-seeker, in fact it's more the behavior of a self-righteous religious propagandist (I'm sure Tom Palven would agree with that, and tell you to face the questions forthrightly). Another word for it might be spam, something which I believe is against the forum rules.

So what about it, Caroline? Do you have enough of the courage of your convictions to uphold them honestly? Or are you just another sheep who bleats fiercely on the internet at the big bad wolves there for the ego-points?

 

[Resume]

For ALL you vaccine Lovers, latest Data on Injuries/Deaths from them:

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/...tent&eId=9af36675-e8d3-4040-a6be-abcb46990996

Here's why you're wrong, and always will be wrong.

Coronavirus Cases:
130,791,446
Deaths:
2,849,974

 

[bruto]

So Caroline, let's get this straight. You claim you do not lie, and that the links you post are reliable sources with which you agree?

If that is the case, so far you have, at the very least, posted links to the following ideas:

Monarchy is the goal to seek.

Democracy is wrong.

The Catholic Church is anti-religious and dangerous.

Muslims are evil.

Democrats are demon-worshiping drinkers of children's blood.

The devil himself (not metaphorically) is attacking the country.

Covid vaccines are poisons purposely designed to murder us all.

A conspiracy is afoot by globalists and elites to depopulate the world.

Sex for anything but reproduction is a sin (that presumably includes whatever an older woman who does not care for relationships with men might do with her flourishing libido).

Lots more, but that's a start. Do you believe these things?

I think before you throw in another link to the same old same old, you ought to make your position clear on these important points. After all, according to yourself, you're reasonable and honest, and so, presumably, are the sites you link to. You whine loudly but abstractly when others call you dishonest, but have yet to address these particular issues.

Of course have never responded to these points before, so I don't suppose you'll do so again, because it seems honesty is defined differently in some quarters, but if you're really so interested in seeing us all do the right thing, you really ought to let us know where you stand on these important principles. What's the point of recommending grape squeezings and stuff if horned devils are going to come in the night and eat us anyway?