Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Tom Palven said:
People having always been getting sick to varig degrees and with varying symptoms of varying intensities, and recovering from them by drinking lots of water and chicken soup.

The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements by Eric Hoffer, 1951 is probably as mush a seminal work as An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nation[/I]s, by Adam Smith, 1776, and On the Origin of the Species by Natural Selection by Charles Darwin, 1859.

Hoffer's work is particularly of interest today, as elements in it support the argument that Covid-19 is more a mass political movement and less a plague of Biblical proportions.
https://www.amazon.com/True-Believe...0677&sprefix=the+true+believer,aps,172&sr=8-1
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How about you address the data and science?
 
Definition and Costs of Vaccines

As usual don't where to post this, so here goes:

Definition:

Here is legal definition of a vaccine

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Sample Contracts and Business Agreements



Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity.


The current shots for the bug were not designed or tested to provide immunity, they are in fact biologics and the mRNA shots have never been formally tested for safety.

The phase 2 & phase 3 (safe and effective) testing is not complete at this time. The shots were approved under Emergency Use guidelines that does not require these things to be proven safe or effective.

You should read the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech application for emergency use applications.

Also ready the package insert that ships with each of these.

Costs:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...avirus-vaccin/
 
Caroline13 said:
As usual don't where to post this, so here goes:

Definition:

Here is legal definition of a vaccine

Law Insider

Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements



Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity.


The current shots for the bug were not designed or tested to provide immunity, they are in fact biologics and the mRNA shots have never been formally tested for safety.

The phase 2 & phase 3 (safe and effective) testing is not complete at this time. The shots were approved under Emergency Use guidelines that does not require these things to be proven safe or effective.

You should read the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech application for emergency use applications.

Also ready the package insert that ships with each of these.

Costs:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...avirus-vaccin/
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Maybe don't use a law website for medical definitions? Here's what the CDC has to say:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/how-they-work.html
 
Caroline13 said:
As usual don't where to post this, so here goes:

Definition:

Here is legal definition of a vaccine

Law Insider

Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements



Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity.


The current shots for the bug were not designed or tested to provide immunity, they are in fact biologics and the mRNA shots have never been formally tested for safety.

The phase 2 & phase 3 (safe and effective) testing is not complete at this time. The shots were approved under Emergency Use guidelines that does not require these things to be proven safe or effective.

You should read the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech application for emergency use applications.

Also ready the package insert that ships with each of these.

Costs:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...avirus-vaccin/
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That info has been removed now. Probably because it's stupid, alarmist nonsense.

I doubt any serious or educated medical or even legal commentator on the subject would refer to COVID as "the bug". That's the wording of the uneducated.

And this was on the Motley Fool website, which is about stock market trading and investments and the like. Methinks you have been randomly Google-mining again. :rolleyes:
 
Caroline13 said:
As usual don't where to post this, so here goes:

Definition:

Here is legal definition of a vaccine

Law Insider

Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements



Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity.
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Did you notice the words, “sample contracts” there? That suggests that this is a suggested contract term, defining the term “vaccine” for the purposes of a particular contract.
 
Norman Alexander said:
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That info has been removed now. Probably because it's stupid, alarmist nonsense.
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No, the link doesn’t work because Caroline hasn’t managed to post it properly. It looks as if she’s copied it from somewhere that abbreviates long urls in the same way this forum does, by cutting out part of the url and substituting an ellipsis. The content is probably still there.
 
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I saw a patient two weeks ago, the day after I had gotten my 2nd dose, and I asked him if he'd gotten the vaccine yet. He said no and proceeded to tell me it hadn't been properly tested. So I asked him if he thought the millions of doses that have been given now demonstrated it was safe. He shifted the goalpost to some other excuse. It wasn't relevant to what I was seeing him for so I didn't push it.

It's hard to fathom though, how people don't see COVID as a greater risk than a vaccine which has now been 'tested' on millions of people with little or no risk occurring after.
 
Caroline13 said:
The current shots for the bug were not designed or tested to provide immunity, they are in fact biologics and the mRNA shots have never been formally tested for safety.
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What were the "current shots for the bug" designed and tested for? Can you briefly describe what "biologics" means and why you think it's significant? Also, exactly what are the mRNA shots are you referring to and what formal testing do you think was not done?

Thanks.
 
Caroline13 said:
As usual don't where to post this, so here goes:

Definition:

Here is legal definition of a vaccine

Law Insider

Law Insider
Sample Contracts and Business Agreements



Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity.


The current shots for the bug were not designed or tested to provide immunity, they are in fact biologics and the mRNA shots have never been formally tested for safety.

The phase 2 & phase 3 (safe and effective) testing is not complete at this time. The shots were approved under Emergency Use guidelines that does not require these things to be proven safe or effective.

You should read the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech application for emergency use applications.

Also ready the package insert that ships with each of these.

Costs:

https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/...avirus-vaccin/
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If you accept that definition of vaccine as the final word, the mRNA vaccines don't meet it. However, the mRNA in them induces you own cells to produce antigens, which then induce immunity. So, maybe the definition of vaccine need to be tweaked a bit, to keep up with new technology.
 
Foster Zygote said:
You mean the Jon Rappoport who shills his own books and CDs on subjects like magic, past life regression and development of paranormal abilities? That Jon Rappoport?

The Jon Rappoport whose degree is a BA in philosophy and who has no medical training?

The Jon Rappoport whose "journalism" on infectious diseases is tainted by an agenda, as he is making money by shilling his "alternative medicine" books and recordings?

That Jon Rappoport?

Well if that guy claims there's a world-wide conspiracy involving virtually every medical researcher, teacher, physician, nurse and relevant specialist on earth, then how could one argue against him?
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Currently Rappoport is schilling a series of books: The Matrix Revealed, Exit From the Matrix, and Power Outside the Matrix, $125 each. The mumbo jumbo is on par with the movies.

When you see the matrix for what it is, you aren't like all the mindless sheeple. You're special.
 
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