Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Tom Palven said:
The Covid Plague hypothesis is as full of holes as the Zika outbreak according to Amherst-grad scholar and investigative journalist, Jon Rappoport.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/
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Well, if they're too gormless to understand official data and plot raw death counts in multiple countries, they're not very competent investigative journalists. And talking about their qualifications doesn't detract from that
 
Tom Palven said:
The Covid Plague hypothesis is as full of holes as the Zika outbreak according to Amherst-grad scholar and investigative journalist, Jon Rappoport.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/
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You mean the Jon Rappoport who shills his own books and CDs on subjects like magic, past life regression and development of paranormal abilities? That Jon Rappoport?

The Jon Rappoport whose degree is a BA in philosophy and who has no medical training?

The Jon Rappoport whose "journalism" on infectious diseases is tainted by an agenda, as he is making money by shilling his "alternative medicine" books and recordings?

That Jon Rappoport?

Well if that guy claims there's a world-wide conspiracy involving virtually every medical researcher, teacher, physician, nurse and relevant specialist on earth, then how could one argue against him?
 
When Tom Palven expresses himself via links to music videos and cartoons, he relies upon readers to infer his intent. If my inferences stated below do not entirely coincide with his intent, that misalignment serves not only to illustrate limitations of Tom Palven's preferred mode of communication, but also to reinforce the message I have drawn from his communications.

Tom Palven said:
A major difference between Tony Fauci and Alfred E. Neuman is that Tony Fauci is worried:
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=alfred+e+neuman&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageBasicHover
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Tom Palven appears to be identifying with that quintessentially American icon, Alfred E Neuman, drawing a stark contrast between Fauci's concern for public health and the Palven/Neuman attitude.

Speaking of cartoons, Bill Watterson drew several Calvin and Hobbes strips that seem quite relevant here. One of them, a Sunday strip originally dated 5-17 (I don't know the year, but it would have been before 1994), begins with Calvin declaring "It's true, Hobbes, ignorance is bliss!" That strip appears to have been republished "for May 20, 2012". In the mode of Tom Palven, I urge anyone who wants to learn more about the Palven/Neuman/Calvin philosophy to examine the online copy of that Sunday comic strip.

A closely related Sunday strip, which begins with Calvin yelling "Faster! Faster!", appears on page 230 of "The Indispensable Calvin and Hobbes", appears to have been republished "for April 12, 2020", and is also available online. I urge everyone, especially Tom Palven, to contemplate the "important lesson" of that strip and the possibility of talking "about these things without the visual aids."
 
Foster Zygote said:
... That Jon Rappoport?

Well if that guy claims there's a world-wide conspiracy involving virtually every medical researcher, teacher, physician, nurse and relevant specialist on earth, then how could one argue against him?
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It's not clear what Rappoport claims about Covid-19 because the link Tom provided just appears to be a rehash of his 5 year old claims about Zika fever and microcephaly. I guess that's less work than actually cobbling together a similar piece about Covid-19. Just copy/paste the old Zika stuff and add a comment to say you reckon Covid's pretty much the same deal.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
It's not clear what Rappoport claims about Covid-19 because the link Tom provided just appears to be a rehash of his 5 year old claims about Zika fever and microcephaly. I guess that's less work than actually cobbling together a similar piece about Covid-19. Just copy/paste the old Zika stuff and add a comment to say you reckon Covid's pretty much the same deal.
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The bulk of Tom Palven's links are similarly disconnected from the discussion. He is quite consistent in that regard.
 
A number of world leaders -- some of them even COVID deniers/minimalizers-- have contracted the virus and recovered, due to medical science, Trump especially. We now know how ill Trump was, and what experimental drug cocktail brought him back from death's door. This science-scoffer then took the vaccine, despite proclaiming himself immune.

So I guess they're all in on it.
 
Resume said:
A number of world leaders -- some of them even COVID deniers/minimalizers-- have contracted the virus and recovered, due to medical science...
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People having always been getting sick to varig degrees and with varying symptoms of varying intensities, and recovering from them by drinking lots of water and chicken soup.

The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements by Eric Hoffer, 1951 is probably as mush a seminal work as An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nation[/I]s, by Adam Smith, 1776, and On the Origin of the Species by Natural Selection by Charles Darwin, 1859.

Hoffer's work is particularly of interest today, as elements in it support the argument that Covid-19 is more a mass political movement and less a plague of Biblical proportions.
https://www.amazon.com/True-Believe...0677&sprefix=the+true+believer,aps,172&sr=8-1
 
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Tom Palven said:
People having always been getting sick to varying degrees and with varying symptoms of varying intensities . . .
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Yes, and the current virus that has killed more than 2.5 million worldwide is now being mitigated through advances in medical science, not by slurping chicken soup, binging water, nor any other ***** and giggles CT-ers may purport. This is a verifiable fact and all attempts to subvert or deny are a transparently specious, and specifically cement-headed.
 
Foster Zygote said:
You mean the Jon Rappoport who shills his own books and CDs on subjects like magic, past life regression and development of paranormal abilities? That Jon Rappoport?

The Jon Rappoport whose degree is a BA in philosophy and who has no medical training?

The Jon Rappoport whose "journalism" on infectious diseases is tainted by an agenda, as he is making money by shilling his "alternative medicine" books and recordings?

That Jon Rappoport?

Well if that guy claims there's a world-wide conspiracy involving virtually every medical researcher, teacher, physician, nurse and relevant specialist on earth, then how could one argue against him?
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As I pointed out earlier in the thread he co-authored a book with David Icke.

Tom do you think David Ivke is a good source?
 
I must confess that it's been nearly 60 years since I read Hoffer. I do remember that I found it pretty incisive at the time, and probably still would, though I also remember that even back then as a teenager, I balked at his utilitarian dismissal of art and craft. I somehow picture the ideal Hoffer homestead as a Corbusier-designed apartment block, with motel art on the walls. Nonetheless, I recall finding much of what he said to be insightful.

But I am rather amused that a person who has what appears to be an implacable belief in ideas that are not in accord with science, who adheres to the views of a small cadre of cranks and conspiracy theorists, and who rejects evidence, does not seem able to imagine how Hoffer would view his true belief.

Maybe I'll have to dig old Eric out of the barn and try again. I suspect there's more of a mirror in it than some readers would like to see. I'm reminded here of some of my other teenage acquaintances who were eager consumers of Ayn Rand, unable to see that they were exactly the ones who would be lined up against the wall and shot or enslaved if their dreams actually came true.
 
OK, I've got it now: my sister was actually "flattened" (her word) and her hospital closed to any new admissions by a political movement; my local cardiology team (one of whom I spoke to a couple of weeks ago) in describing how the team had been re-assigned to other areas and are only now catching up with existing patients via telephone contact were doing so for political reasons; that I couldn't go into A&E in our local hospital with Carrot Flower Queen the other day was not because of Covid restrictions, but was a political decision...

I'll have to remember that when it comes round to our next general election and NOT vote for the Covid Party.
 
If the worldwide response to Covid-19 is in future considered as if it were a mass political movement it will be quite an interesting one because it was so short-lived, achieved its singular purpose and ended. It'll look like a remarkable case mostly of international cooperation to tackle a new threat and within a year or so to have beaten the threat and return to life as normal.
 
Wudang said:
Sorry to read that. My was floored by it and now has long covid.
I can understand why some people vote Conservative as I've had many such voters as friends but for this particular gang? Have they no decency?
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Cheers: no sign of long Covid, thankfully. And Bro-in-Law and Nephew#1 didn't catch it (Nephew apparently took after his mother and me and took command of the situation in a manner that made us proud).
 
Childlike Empress said:
Just because you think you are doing fine in this insanity (and I am doing fine as well, not personally complaining), doesn't mean that countless people, especially the young and the old, aren't crushed by these "measures" more than they could ever be by any real "pandemic".
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Yeah because dying isn't worse than an economic downturn.

Tom Palven said:
imvho, anyone who accepts every bit of dogma from Pope Anthony as gospel is an Orthodox Covidist.
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Do knowledgeable people threaten you like this very often?
 
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