Foster Zygote
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Certainly not more important, but definitely an indicator of how bad things could have been world-wide, had other nations been as lax in their response.
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Certainly not more important, but definitely an indicator of how bad things could have been world-wide, had other nations been as lax in their response.
Jack by the hedge
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It looks as if your argument is with crappy reporting rather than with matters of fact concerning the epidemic.
There is similar US data. I don't have it to hand but @39Magilla on Twitter has loads... And in fact has done an equivalent of my bottom left graph for the US
P.J. Denyer
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Well, I just got "The Text" and after carefully balancing up the advice of medical experts & worldwide death toll on one hand, and on the other the insane rantings of Aunty Doris' Facebook page... I have an appointment with Mr Pointy on Friday.
Jim_MDP
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I think my age (59) and non-critical position puts me around June/July here in Oregon.
Anyone got a spare "underlying condition" lying around? [emoji1]
Eta: Guess I picked the wrong decade to quit smoking... that would.have moved me up the list I think. Or is that just in NJ (joke on SNL I just saw)?
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You can't address the excess deaths, they are real, you believe in BS, not real.
Plus why you are you talking about Covid, for you it is Fiction.
lol, you missed the Yellow Press... term used in the 1890s to identify the sensational journalism. You are more than 100 years late in figuring out sensational press... Get caught up and try not to use Fox news, or Breitbart as your source of woo
Why are you anti-science?
Cosmic Yak
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How is it that you have concluded that Covid is fake without understanding how to read a graph, and without looking at the data for excess deaths?
Carrot Flower King
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You can borrow my cardiomyopathy and CCF, just make sure you lose them somewhere between Oregon and here...
bruto
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I think some people have addressed what appears to have been his point on C. diff. Palven notes that people who are at the door of death from various causes often actually die of more immediate things, such as the common C diff, but they are still said to have died of the diseases that led them to that last hurdle. He thus concludes that the same should be applied broadly to the attribution of death by Covid-19.
What I think is omitted is the fact that such things as C diff and pneumonia are common and predictable final illnesses for people who were very close to death already - that is, people whose death was certain and predictable. That is quite different from the trivially obvious point that a person with a health problem might not survive Covid-19. The difference is that even if the bad health was a major contributor to the death, the absence of Covid-19 would make a real and tangible difference in the outcome.
If I am in horrible health such that the duration of my future life is tenuous, and you come up with a gun and shoot me, it's appropriate to say I was shot to death, even if you could make a case that I'd have lived if I had been fitter, and even if there's a significant chance that I could drop dead at any time.
I think something like this argument has not been absent from this thread, but that is not the same as having it acknowledged, much less accepted.
e.t.a. If I've gotten Tom Palven's point wrong, I invite him to state it more correctly, but request that it be done without musical accompaniment.
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Jack by the hedge
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To which, amongst other responses, I posted a link to a study which concluded the average victim of Covid-19 had an estimated 10+ years of life snuffed out. And, as I recall, Tom decided to wave that away simply by wondering whether the University's data could be dodgy, even though they have a statue he quite likes.
Wudang
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An explanation of how UK death certificates work.
https://geekymedics.com/certification-death-uk-osce-guide/
https://geekymedics.com/certification-death-uk-osce-guide/
bruto
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Yes, I think in this case our poster has confused "addressed" with "agreed with."
Several posts of bickering have been moved to AAH. Please keep to the topic of the thread, which is not one another.
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Caroline13
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This just arrived from Jon today. Not sure which Covid thread to publish it, so here it is now:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/
One thing this covid did was put this gal into a new political party or maybe None.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/
One thing this covid did was put this gal into a new political party or maybe None.
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Dr.Sid
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I like it.
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Can you spot the year that Covid-19 hit the England and Wales?
This plots every week this century (and indeed back to wk31, 1999)
Lrrr
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I prefer to get facts from real scientists, not random internet bloggers with no medical degree or even training.
marting
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Can't say the blogger didn't warn you. I love this from his "professional services" section:
All these services share a common feature: the invention of new and better reality, and making that reality as impactful as possible.
Jon Rappoport
It does appear he's doing a yeoman's job creating an alternate reality. Too bad it isn't the one I live in.
Caroline13
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Well then stick with Fauci and his gang. I prefer to look at ALL discussions and how about the AmericanFrontLine Doctors...most are MD's, some Ph.D's, and others investigative researchers/journalists, like Rappaport....
Stay in your closed box.
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