Ed Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

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Childlike Empress said:
I know nobody who is sick and dying of "Covid-19".
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Lucky you! How many people have you known who died of heart disease, in the last ten months?

I know a lot of people who are sick and dying of "the measures", though. Fascism kills. Fear is the virus.
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You know a lot of people who are dying of wearing face-masks and social distancing? That sounds like histrionic ******** to me.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Nobody restricts my basic rights or forces me to wear a silly face diaper because of heart disease. Last time I've checked people are even still allowed to do dangerous nonsense like skydiving.
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Think a little. Is there a potential for an individual with heart disease or a person skydiving to spread a potentially lethal disease to others?

Actual human beings worthy of the name have empathy for their fellow people. This is the epitome of the idiocy of wanting freedom without responsibility. Almost makes you sound like an American conservative.
 
Steve said:
Think a little. Is there a potential for an individual with heart disease or a person skydiving to spread a potentially lethal disease to others?

Actual human beings worthy of the name have empathy for their fellow people. This is the epitome of the idiocy of wanting freedom without responsibility. Almost makes you sound like an American conservative.
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I think big. Was it me who brought up heart disease?
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Nobody restricts my basic rights or forces me to wear a silly face diaper because of heart disease. Last time I've checked people are even still allowed to do dangerous nonsense like skydiving.
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I'm not sure if you genuinely missed the point, or if you're being deliberately obtuse. You've taken my response to your first claim and applied it to your second, while ignoring my second point. Erroneous or deliberate, we may as well proceed as if it's a failure of comprehension on your part.

My first point about knowing anyone who's died of heart disease in the last ten months highlights your statistical fallacy. Heart disease is the number one killer in the world. But most people don't know many people who die of heart disease in any given ten month period. But an individual anecdote about such a lack of personal association doesn't mean that heart disease is a myth.

If I could eliminate heart disease deaths by wearing a mask for a tiny percentage of my life, I'd gladly do it. And I wouldn't whine about it like a big baby. But heart disease isn't spread by people as they exhale, is it? So that point is a non sequitur. Skydiving is a similarly ludicrous analogy, because if you skydive, you are taking a chance with your own life, and not randomly risking the lives of others. A better analogy would be speeding in an automobile on public roads. The "personal risk" argument falls apart because it isn't just you being put at risk when you ignore the dangers.
 
Caroline13 said:
Do you have a health issue? If so, do a search of it and Grape Seed EXTRACT.
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Which several of us DID and found nothing supporting any of your claims and a whole heap of things, including from a couple of the Merkinanian hospitals you said supported it, saying that it does nowt - that's nada, zilch, naff all, sod all, nothing.

And then you did not respond to us pointing that out.
 
Carrot Flower King said:
Which several of us DID and found nothing supporting any of your claims and a whole heap of things, including from a couple of the Merkinanian hospitals you said supported it, saying that it does nowt - that's nada, zilch, naff all, sod all, nothing.

And then you did not respond to us pointing that out.
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To be fair, that isn't what the link I posted says. There's real evidence it does help with some things (high cholesterol, for example). It's just not a cure all, as Caroline13 seems to be claiming.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Heart disease is a fact of life, like the flu.
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Traffic deaths are a fact of life, too. Are you going to call speed limits, traffic signals, seat belt laws and manufacturer safety standards "fascism"? There's very little that you or I can do to prevent heart disease in others by modifying our own behavior. But there's a hell of a lot we can personally do to reduce the risk of others dying in a traffic accident.

Nobody is throwing a hissy over it.
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But some people are throwing tantrums over practices like wearing a mask in public and avoiding close contact with people outside their homes. Seriously, can you tell us exactly how many people you personally know who have died as a direct result of masks or social distancing? You claimed it was "a lot", so you should be able to give us some idea how many.

Your "analogy" is absurd.
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Again, you don't even realize what the analogy is about. It was directly addressing your argument that COVID19 isn't serious because you don't personally know anyone who's died from it. Heart disease is another deadly reality, but if someone concluded that it's a hoax, or was overblown and little worse than seasonal flu because he or she hadn't personally known anyone who died from it in the last ten months, that person would be making a remarkably stupid argument.
 
During my appointment with my Pulmonologist yesterday we discussed COVID-19. She said it has been a nightmare, both the virus itself, and the state and county's response to it. California has screwed up testing beyond repair. The current vaccine distribution is a mess.

She said she and her colleagues have never seen something like COVID-19. The virus is amazingly contagious, and it hits fast. A patient can be fine one day and on a ventilator the next.

The appointment was done online. If the virus was fake we would have met in person.
 
Well, the latest on the vaccines, the J&J will not be given to the older folks, being saved for the youngins, this vaccine supposedly is not as strong as the 2 being used now. All these rushed vaccines and so much I believe to be known as time goes on.

Just so glad the vaccine is not on my list of "things to do"...

Thanks but no thanks big pharma and big govt.

Give me my Vit C, D, Zinc and and and.
 
Caroline13 said:
Well, the latest on the vaccines, the J&J will not be given to the older folks, being saved for the youngins, this vaccine supposedly is not as strong as the 2 being used now. All these rushed vaccines and so much I believe to be known as time goes on.

Just so glad the vaccine is not on my list of "things to do"...

Thanks but no thanks big pharma and big govt.

Give me my Vit C, D, Zinc and and and.
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If you repeat this enough times maybe someone will give you a cracker.
 
Caroline13 said:
Well, the latest on the vaccines, the J&J will not be given to the older folks, being saved for the youngins, this vaccine supposedly is not as strong as the 2 being used now. All these rushed vaccines and so much I believe to be known as time goes on.

Just so glad the vaccine is not on my list of "things to do"...

Thanks but no thanks big pharma and big govt.

Give me my Vit C, D, Zinc and and and.
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How did the Polynesians - who had a very healthy diet, do when they encounter Europeans and their diseases? The Hawaiian's lost 84% of their population once they encountered Cook. How do you explain that?
 
Childlike Empress said:
Heart disease is a fact of life, like the flu. Nobody is throwing a hissy over it. Your "analogy" is absurd.
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I think you're being obtuse, and insofar as you continue with an analogy, it's more than a little absurd.

Heart disease is not contagious of course, but it is also the target of huge, varied efforts in numerous fields. Doctors, drug makers, food manufacturers, advertisers, public service organizations, gymnasia, health experts and health quacks, all push heart healthiness. It's a huge concern and a huge industry. Because it is not contagious, the attention given it is not so obvious, the "hissy" of a different sort, but it's also blindingly obvious that it's taken seriously whether or not you care to observe it.
 
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