Cont: Trump’s Coup - Part 2

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Skeptic Ginger said:
I think that might have been the bigger danger than the riot which would have eventually been put down. Trump finally telling people to go home was almost certainly after he realized they were not going to succeed.
But that certain legislators could simply stop certification of their states' election results was disturbing to me. One step further than disenfranchising so many voters.
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Trump telling them to go home was certainly, not 'almost', after his lawyers told him he was already in a ****load of trouble. And they were right. Look where he is right now.
 
Stacyhs said:
Trump telling them to go home was certainly, not 'almost', after his lawyers told him he was already in a ****load of trouble. And they were right. Look where he is right now.
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And where is that exactly? Seems he's still where he's always been -despised by many people and adored by an equal number. He's not going to be convicted in the impeachment hearing. He probably won't be prosecuted. The worst thing that can happen to him at this point is to fade away and not be a viable candidate in 2024. I think he'll find a way to trade off his name and core fan-base just like he always has.
 
Dr. Keith said:
Is Mar-a-Lago that rough?
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xjx388 said:
And where is that exactly? Seems he's still where he's always been -despised by many people and adored by an equal number. He's not going to be convicted in the impeachment hearing. He probably won't be prosecuted. The worst thing that can happen to him at this point is to fade away and not be a viable candidate in 2024. I think he'll find a way to trade off his name and core fan-base just like he always has.
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I'm referring to legal problems. He's under criminal investigations as we speak in New York and Georgia.

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is broadening an ongoing investigation of Trump with a focus on potential financial crimes in Trump's many business ventures, and prosecutors in Georgia have also opened a criminal investigation. This one's centered on that now-infamous phone call Trump made to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, the call in which Trump asked Raffensperger to find enough votes to reverse his election loss in Georgia.
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Besides the Manhattan tax criminal case, "New York Attorney General Letitia James also opened a civil investigation into whether Trump illegally altered the value of his assets."

He's also being sued in a civil defamation case by a woman who claimed he raped her years ago that can now go forward. The statute of limitations ran out for a criminal case so she is suing him for defamation for calling her a liar instead.
 
It'll be a rough year for Drumpf. As much as I am ready to never hear from him or his cultists again, I'm looking forward to every second of coverage of his suffering.
 
Stacyhs said:
I'm referring to legal problems. He's under criminal investigations as we speak in New York and Georgia.



Besides the Manhattan tax criminal case, "New York Attorney General Letitia James also opened a civil investigation into whether Trump illegally altered the value of his assets."

He's also being sued in a civil defamation case by a woman who claimed he raped her years ago that can now go forward. The statute of limitations ran out for a criminal case so she is suing him for defamation for calling her a liar instead.
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Sure, those are serious charges and they will cause trouble for him. But ultimately, he's got enough resources to drag it out for some time. I would say the odds are good that he is never actually prosecuted for this stuff and if he is, that he is able to delay proceedings by abusing the court system. Just like all rich people do. In the end he likely won't see jail time.

The civil stuff sounds like the story of his life pre-POTUS -minor annoyances that will either never gain traction or he will eventually settle for peanuts.

We'll see what happens but I'm not pinning my hopes on him living the rest of his life in jail or finally getting his commuppance in some way.
 
xjx388 said:
Sure, those are serious charges and they will cause trouble for him. But ultimately, he's got enough resources to drag it out for some time. I would say the odds are good that he is never actually prosecuted for this stuff and if he is, that he is able to delay proceedings by abusing the court system. Just like all rich people do. In the end he likely won't see jail time.

The civil stuff sounds like the story of his life pre-POTUS -minor annoyances that will either never gain traction or he will eventually settle for peanuts.

We'll see what happens but I'm not pinning my hopes on him living the rest of his life in jail or finally getting his commuppance in some way.
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I'm putting my money on Cy Vance. I think NY is fed up with Trump getting away with things and NY is not some little mom and pop painting store.
 
I think the riony of that footage of a rioter using his "Blue Lives Matter" banner to beat up a Capitol Policeman speaks for itself.
 
acbytesla said:
Here's a great family bonding story. Parents together take their 18 year old son
from Georgia to DC. The son is in jail and the parents are begging for their son's release.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_60273806c5b680717ee7d557/amp
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Joseph Cua said he felt responsible for bringing his son to the Capitol, and said that he and his wife would be able to create a stable environment for him at home.
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"Bruno!"

"Yes, Dad? Just practising my baton wielding."

"That's mah boy. Now when the cop comes for you just whack him OK."

"We gotta stop the steal - "

"Yeah, yeah, Mom, so you keep sayin'."
 
acbytesla said:
Here's a great family bonding story. Parents together take their 18 year old son
from Georgia to DC. The son is in jail and the parents are begging for their son's release.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_60273806c5b680717ee7d557/amp
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This story raised a question for me:
Ryan Karim Buchanan, a prosecutor for the Justice Department, moved to detain Bruno Cua, saying home wasn’t a “suitable place” for him. “I don’t believe that home incarceration would work because he’s an 18-year-old who’s home schooled,” Buchanan said. The things that Bruno Cua had ingested, not only from the internet but from his parents, led him to the attack on the Capitol.
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My question, is Bruno being treated differently from other rioters because his parents believe(d) in nutty conspiracy theories? The implication being that his family would keep feeding him toxic ****. But anyone who is released probably goes right on hanging out with kooks. I can't tell from HuffPo whether he is being denied bail. It sounds like he is. Maybe other rioters are being denied bail too; I haven't kept up with the individual cases.

When bail is set, do authorities routinely check out the living situation of every released detainee?

Dad says he now believes Biden won. I can't tell if he's sincere. No word from Mom.
 
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