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Cont: Brexit: Now What? The Perfect 10.

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wobs said:
Just to add to the fun, apparently there are many exporters in the UK who still do not use the correct pallet for exporting to the EU:
https://metroshipping.co.uk/news/the-uk-still-doesnt-have-the-right-pallets-for-brexit/

It is not currently checked, but will be in the future.

This is to prevent pests in the wood from getting into the EU. We were exempt, as part of the EU, but now we have left, we need specially treated pallets (ISPM 15-compliant).

Discussion here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3aAC_3czNg

I just hope we are able to treat the pallets ourselves, and get them certified, rather than having to import them from the EU.
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May I recommend the following podcast on pallets. The podcast title is British humour!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05xltbh
 
Darat said:
It is astonishing the number of people that seem surprised by all these changes and loss of rights, it is only a shame no one explained these changes and loss of rights before the referendum, perhaps people would have decided differently.
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It probabaly wouldn't have helped. IMO there are parallels to anti-vax. People who have lived in places and times when vaccinations are not available almost always consider vaccinations a godsend.

Anti-vax typically arises in countries where vaccines are readily available and widely used. In countries like this people are never exposed to what life is like without vaccinations and it seems like no amount of education or information will ever make them realize just how important vaccines are to them.

There is also another parallel in that they think I should be free to do whatever they want but expect someone else to make it happen. They also feel entitled to benefit from the efforts of others even while refusing to contribute to those efforts. Anti vaxers expect to retain all the benefits of herd immunity to protect themselves from disease but think they are entitled to that without contributing to it personally. In the case of Brexiters they think the EU should accommodate them so they can enjoy all the benefits of being in the EU but without contributing to the efforts that make those benefits possible in the first place.
 
Vixen said:
As the resident Brexiteer points out, now that there is no-one to catch the fish and no-one to sell the fish to, it is good for sustainability as now the fish can go forth and spawn in peace.
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Catching fewer fish is better for the ocean ecosystem, but fish certainly won't be able to spawn in peace just because no one bothers to catch them in UK waters. Fish don't know where the border is and most will routinely cross that border as part of their normal migrations. If fishing in UK waters drops off more fish can and will be caught on the EU side of that border.
 
Vixen said:
As the resident Brexiteer points out, now that there is no-one to catch the fish and no-one to sell the fish to, it is good for sustainability as now the fish can go forth and spawn in peace.
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Yes the fish probably are bit happier, or as happier as fish can be anyway
 
lomiller said:
Catching fewer fish is better for the ocean ecosystem, but fish certainly won't be able to spawn in peace just because no one bothers to catch them in UK waters. Fish don't know where the border is and most will routinely cross that border as part of their normal migrations. If fishing in UK waters drops off more fish can and will be caught on the EU side of that border.
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Indeed. EU ships will be able to catch what they want and won't have to pay the UK anything. Who said brexit couldn't be having your cake and eating it?
 
lomiller said:
Catching fewer fish is better for the ocean ecosystem, but fish certainly won't be able to spawn in peace just because no one bothers to catch them in UK waters. Fish don't know where the border is and most will routinely cross that border as part of their normal migrations. If fishing in UK waters drops off more fish can and will be caught on the EU side of that border.
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But these are BRITISH fish. They won't be lowering themselves to swim in foreign waters or god forbid be caught by one of those swarthy types.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
But these are BRITISH fish. They won't be lowering themselves to swim in foreign waters or god forbid be caught by one of those swarthy types.
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What if they are illegal immigrants who crossed the border as fingerlings and have been sponging off the UK and steeling the food out of the mouths of good English fish ever since? The UK really needs to get the Royal Navy patrolling to keep the parasites out.
 
lomiller said:
What if they are illegal immigrants who crossed the border as fingerlings and have been sponging off the UK and steeling the food out of the mouths of good English fish ever since? The UK really needs to get the Royal Navy patrolling to keep the parasites out.
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Depth charges...it's the only answer!
 
Seems like consumers are paying the price for Boris Johnson's Brexit deal.

Brexit: 'I was asked to pay an extra £82 for my £200 coat'
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55734277

She was surprised when she then received a text from courier company DPD, containing a link asking her to pay £58 in customs duties, VAT and additional charges for her £180 order.

On top of that, the UPS courier for the second parcel showed up at her door several days later, asking for an extra payment of £82 for her £200 coat.
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Trade (in goods) may be tariff-free but that doesn't mean that UK consumers aren't going to have to pay through the nose. :mad:

When the UK was part of the European Union's customs union, goods could move freely between the country and other member states without import taxes being charged.

But Ellie was one of the shoppers caught unaware of the fact that those rules have changed since the UK's official exit.

EU retailers sending packages to the UK now need to fill out customs declaration forms. Shoppers may also have to pay customs or VAT charges, depending on the value of the product and where it came from.

However, these are the responsibility of the customer, not the retailer, who often has no idea of how much the eventual extra cost might be.

They cannot be paid in advance and are levied only when the item reaches the UK.
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At this stage I'm no longer asking when we might see these sunny uplands - I'd just like someone to be able to tell me what they might look like.
 
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