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"We should be allowed to control who catches our fish, so we want to leave the EU!"
"Who do you sell your fish to?"
"The EU!"
"Do you not see an issue with that at all?"
"Project Fear!"
 
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@johnredwood
The world will only take the U.K. seriously if we show we act independently of the EU. The U.K. believes in free trade and democracy, peace and human rights, which it has a fine history promoting.

The government needs to enforce the rights of U.K. traders to buy and sell into and out of Northern Ireland as they always have done in the past. The U.K. Union thrives on an open and free U.K. single market which the EU wants to disrupt with its approach to Northern Ireland.

Standing up for U.K. values does not mean giving in to every EU demand. There is a big difference between supporting a moral international order and accepting every attempt by the EU to assert their interests over ours.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
John Redwood Tweets

@johnredwood
The world will only take the U.K. seriously if we show we act independently of the EU. The U.K. believes in free trade and democracy, peace and human rights, which it has a fine history promoting.

The government needs to enforce the rights of U.K. traders to buy and sell into and out of Northern Ireland as they always have done in the past. The U.K. Union thrives on an open and free U.K. single market which the EU wants to disrupt with its approach to Northern Ireland.

Standing up for U.K. values does not mean giving in to every EU demand. There is a big difference between supporting a moral international order and accepting every attempt by the EU to assert their interests over ours.
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The UK believes in Human Rights *glances at Priti Patel and sniggers*
 
Captain_Swoop said:
John Redwood Tweets

@johnredwood
The world will only take the U.K. seriously if we show we act independently of the EU. The U.K. believes in free trade and democracy, peace and human rights, which it has a fine history promoting.

The government needs to enforce the rights of U.K. traders to buy and sell into and out of Northern Ireland as they always have done in the past. The U.K. Union thrives on an open and free U.K. single market which the EU wants to disrupt with its approach to Northern Ireland.

Standing up for U.K. values does not mean giving in to every EU demand. There is a big difference between supporting a moral international order and accepting every attempt by the EU to assert their interests over ours.
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We are totally free to reinstate a free UK single market. We only need to reserect a hard physical border between NI and the test of Ireland which bring me to the highlighted parts above......
 
We believe in free trade and human rights and to show you just how much we do we voted to leave the largest free trade area on the planet and want to leave the ECHR.

We believe in democracy and the Union and that's why we will deny the countries of the union the right to decide their own futures democratically.

And we believe in peace and that's why this Wiki page is so long.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...at_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_(1922–present)

Try again Mr Redwood maybe something like:

We believe that being British makes us superior to the rest of the world and therefore the rules shouldn't apply to us. We believe in the right to treat the rest of the world as our property and take what we want but never to be held accountable. We believe that you are stupid enough to believe us when we lie to your faces.
 
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Roger Daltry is outraged by it and is insisting the govt has to do something.

The same Roger Daltry that supported Brexit and was calling the EU a 'Mafia'.
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It is astonishing the number of people that seem surprised by all these changes and loss of rights, it is only a shame no one explained these changes and loss of rights before the referendum, perhaps people would have decided differently.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Customs is a pretty simple serial process. If the docs aren't right in one place they don't pass it on to the next one.

So either someone made a mistake or the only other explanation I can think of is that it left the UK before Jan 1 and arrived in the EU after Jan 1?

if I didn't have the right paperwork it should never have been sent let alone cleared UK customs. And if it hasn't cleared UK customs then it can't have been legally sent to Finland. And yet it sits in Finland.

If it's fallen into the Jan 1 transition black hole then God knows what happens to it. Probably a controlled detonation. I wouldn't be paying it if it's more than the value of the item. That's for sure.
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The parcel I was expecting before Christmas arrived after the new year. Late but no problems. This one was sent circa 7th Jan, it was ordered via Amazon apparently and nobody seems to want to take responsibilty for it. Tulli said it was to do with Britain having problems with Brexit. Why would they want to worry about it?

The sender was not to know Amazon couldn't deliver.
 
Just to add to the fun, apparently there are many exporters in the UK who still do not use the correct pallet for exporting to the EU:
https://metroshipping.co.uk/news/the-uk-still-doesnt-have-the-right-pallets-for-brexit/

It is not currently checked, but will be in the future.

This is to prevent pests in the wood from getting into the EU. We were exempt, as part of the EU, but now we have left, we need specially treated pallets (ISPM 15-compliant).

Discussion here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3aAC_3czNg

I just hope we are able to treat the pallets ourselves, and get them certified, rather than having to import them from the EU.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
Interesting that this is rules of origin kicking in as I originally thought 'but there aren't any tariffs on car imports from the EU in the deal'
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Exactly. If someone wants a top of the range model then they'll look at price but if they know that the Ford is only £15K more than the humble Dacia Duster because of tariffs and charges but not because of superior technology they just won't buy. Might as well shell out another £15K for a genuinely top of the range car. Ford is a popular car and it will sell on brand name but margins do matter, especially in a recession.
 
Tolls said:
Yep.
"We should be allowed to control who catches our fish, so we want to leave the EU!"
"Who do you sell your fish to?"
"The EU!"
"Do you not see an issue with that at all?"
"Project Fear!"
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As the resident Brexiteer points out, now that there is no-one to catch the fish and no-one to sell the fish to, it is good for sustainability as now the fish can go forth and spawn in peace.
 
Darat said:
It is astonishing the number of people that seem surprised by all these changes and loss of rights, it is only a shame no one explained these changes and loss of rights before the referendum, perhaps people would have decided differently.
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The last time I tried to explain that to a Brexiteer it was like trying to describe autoerotic asphyxiation to a nun except that instead of refusing to listen and muttering "Saints preserve us" they chanted "Project Fear".



On the plus side I did get to use a riposte I had saved
Him "I don't want to argue anymore."
"I'm not arguing, I'm explaining why you're wrong."


The argument actually started with the guy I was with talking to the Brexiteers pal who was a friend. My pal said he was considering moving to Scotland and the Brexiteer went straight on the attack with his one fact "Oh so you want to live in a place where 1 pint could see you over the drink drive limit do you?". My mate just turned to me (a Scot) and said "Rob, over to you".
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
We believe in free trade and human rights and to show you just how much we do we voted to leave the largest free trade area on the planet and want to leave the ECHR.

We believe in democracy and the Union and that's why we will deny the countries of the union the right to decide their own futures democratically.

And we believe in peace and that's why this Wiki page is so long.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...at_Britain_and_Northern_Ireland_(1922–present)

Try again Mr Redwood maybe something like:

We believe that being British English makes us superior to the rest of the world and therefore the rules shouldn't apply to us. We believe in the right to treat the rest of the world as our property and take what we want but never to be held accountable. We believe that you are stupid enough to believe us when we lie to your faces.
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FTFY ;)
 
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