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Captain_Swoop said:
UK ‘rejected offer’ of visa-free tours by musicians in EU, despite blaming Brussels it appears the stumbling block was Priti Patel’s immigration crackdown which has introduced tough restrictions on tours by EU musicians.
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Also pretty tough from a customs POV. Musicians from the EU used to have tariff free access for their kit. Now they’ll most likely need to pay a guarantee up front that they’ll re-export the kit, then claim it back.
 
I wonder, would UK businesses have a case suing all those involved in the Brexit referendum like Farage for lost moneys now that it's starting to turn out that the promises were all lies and their actions are now causing those companies a loss?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Government to let farmers use bee-killing pesticide banned in EU

A bee-killing pesticide so poisonous that it is banned by the EU may be used on sugar beet in England, the government has announced.
The decision prompted fury from nature-lovers and environmentalists, who accused ministers of bowing to pressure from farmers.
They said during the biodiversity crisis, when at least half the world’s insects have disappeared, the government should be doing everything it could to save bees, not allow them to be killed.

Environment secretary George Eustice has agreed to let a product containing the neonicotinoid thiamethoxam to treat sugar beet seed this year in an effort to protect the crop from a virus.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...l-pesticide-insect-sugar-neonic-b1784693.html
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The 'race to the bottom' has begun; neonics are banned in most places, except the US and now the UK.

Weren't the Brexiteers busily claiming that the post-EU UK could improve environmental laws? Where are they now?
 
catsmate said:
The 'race to the bottom' has begun; neonics are banned in most places, except the US and now the UK.

Weren't the Brexiteers busily claiming that the post-EU UK could improve environmental laws? Where are they now?
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Nonsense! It’s just sensible good old British Bulldog common sense, we don’t eat bees so what harm does it do!

Also an entirely unsurprising “let them eat cake”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-consumer-worker-protections-brexit-b1783331.html

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A leading Tory credited with inspiring Brexit has urged Boris Johnson to cull a raft of EU consumer and worker protections, now the UK has the freedom to act.

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* the Temporary Workers’ Directive – which guarantees agency staff receive equal pay and conditions with employees in the same business.

* the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) – that gives individuals control over their personal data and limits its transfer to other countries.

* the ban on products made from genetically modified (GM) crops – potentially allowing US food derived that way into the UK, as part of a future trade deal.

* the REACH Directive – to outlaw chemicals linked to health problems including cancer, thyroid disease, hormone disruption and slow development.

* the End of Life Vehicles Directive – to achieve environmentally-friendly dismantling and recycling, with targets for the reuse of vehicles and their components.

* the Alternative Investment Fund Managers Directive (AIFMD) – introduced to regulate hedge funds and private equity following the 2008 financial crash.

* the ‘Droit de suite’ rules – that pay artists a fee on the resale of their works of art, instead of the American ‘first-sale doctrine’ that removes rights from subsequent sales.

* “chunks of” the Markets in Financial Instruments Directive (MiFID II) – the legal framework to harmonise regulation of securities markets and trading venues.



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His article itself if you want the full details: https://www.conservativehome.com/th...edom-and-grow-ourselves-out-of-this-mess.html


Oh and one other little thing that I will watch eagerly to see how it plays out - apparently there isn’t a way for EU au pairs to come to the UK now... expect that one to be “sorted out” pretty quickly.
 
John Redwood tweets

@johnredwood
There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
John Redwood tweets

@johnredwood
There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
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I wonder why we haven't done that before now.

Could it be that it couldn't be done, or that it couldn't be done cost effectively ?

Another Brexit "benefit", higher consumer prices. :mad:
 
He hassupporters
(Quite a few actually, all posting something like this)

JC #Where'sHunter
@JayCee7044
We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain

Bernadette Packer
@BernadettePack5
I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.

Martha Ella
@martianmushroom
We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry

Margot Parker
@MargotLJParker
Absolutely it's a no brainer hurrah for common sense!

justthetruthpls
@MikeStannard4
Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT
 
Captain_Swoop said:
John Redwood tweets

@johnredwood
There are big opportunities for U.K. business in import substitution. Let’s cut the food miles by growing more at home. We need to increase the amount of U.K. value added in manufactures by making more components here, simplifying supply chains and creating more jobs.
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Wow. Bloody hell, what a fantastic idea, businesses should operate as businesses, if we hadn't had the keen intellect of Redwood to point this out no one in business would ever have thought of this.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
He hassupporters
(Quite a few actually, all posting something like this)

JC #Where'sHunter
@JayCee7044
We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain
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Of course there was food rationing until the mid-50's and despite all the efforts of "dig for victory" the Atlantic convoys were still important for supplying the UK with food. Then again Brexit has always been fuelled by a constant stream of lies so why should it be any different this time around. :rolleyes:


Captain_Swoop said:
Bernadette Packer
@BernadettePack5
I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.
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Good for you. :rolleyes:

Of course not everyone has the resources to grow their own lemons and not all year around.

It's not affordable for many to use butchers and farm shops which is why supermarkets and discount retailers exist. It's also pretty difficult to get to a farm shop if you live in and inner city sink estate. :mad:

Captain_Swoop said:
Martha Ella
@martianmushroom
We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry
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Ah yes, the golden days of the 1970s where British was a byword for quality and affordability :rolleyes:

Remind me again how the far Eastern manufacturers managed to thrive ?

I wonder if she will change her tune if she is forced to work for under-subsistence wages.


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Margot Parker
@MargotLJParker
Absolutely it's a no brainer hurrah for common sense!
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I guess having no brain does assist significantly in agreeing with John Redwood. :rolleyes:

Captain_Swoop said:
justthetruthpls
@MikeStannard4
Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT
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In some cases it is, it's often also very expensive.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
All my attempts to grow bananas, oranges and peaches to substitute imports have so far failed. But I'm sure now we are out of the EU and not constrained by EU rules I will have 400 days a year of sun.
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tbh if the likes of John Redwood get their way they climate change would spiral out of control and we'll either be able to grow bananas here or the Atlantic conveyor will change course and we'll become an arctic wasteland.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
He hassupporters
(Quite a few actually, all posting something like this)

JC #Where'sHunter
@JayCee7044
We did it during a word war - our parents/grandparents 'dug for victory'. Our manufacturing soared, so I can't see a reason why we can't do this.
Let's relaunch I'm backing Britain

Bernadette Packer
@BernadettePack5
I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.

Martha Ella
@martianmushroom
We could grow and manufacture the foods items that we can, the obtain others from elsewhere.
Not the amount that we have done from 1970 onwards. People will HAVE to work or be hungry

Margot Parker
@MargotLJParker
Absolutely it's a no brainer hurrah for common sense!

justthetruthpls
@MikeStannard4
Yes. BRITISH PRODUCE IS THE BEST WE CAN BUY. BRITISH CHEESE IS BETTER THAN FRENCH BUY BRITISH AND SAVE BRITISH JOBS. PLS RT
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"If you caught a fish, then whoever you sold it to, they wouldn't have to pay for it, and the profits would go to the fish."
 
Captain_Swoop said:
He hassupporters
(Quite a few actually, all posting something like this)
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Bernadette Packer
@BernadettePack5
I'm growing my own lemons. We should be sticking more British produce in our supermarkets, and if affordable use our butchers, farm shops etc.
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Whoopee. We'll be growing our own parsley soon, too. That'll show the EU!

It takes about 2 acres to keep a family of 4 in veg and ground fruits alone for a year. The typical household patch of a garden makes sod all difference to food requirements. It can be rewarding to grow stuff, but it's little more than a hobby.

******* morons.
 
Lukraak_Sisser said:
Vegetable plots in your backyard, your children manufacturing stuff at home during lockdown, back to the Blitz!
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I think I got a 3D printer at the right time, I can become a god among men printing plastic widgets for my neighbours and lord it over them by eating twice a week!
 
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