Cont: Trump et al continued “2020 election” conspiracy theories

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Why haven’t they done signature verification in Fulton County, Georgia. Why haven’t they deducted all of the dead people who “voted”, illegals who voted, non Georgia residents who voted, and tens of thousands of others who voted illegally, from the final vote tally?

After the preceeding list of illegal voters, who is left to add up to "tens of thousands of others"?? Martians? The Greys were bused from Area 51?

Wait, wait, I know. It's those damn French Canucks from Quebec.
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ah, another one who knows his supporters are too dump to check whether you actually keep your promises, or just claim you did.
Trump supporters are just patsies. No wonder the GOP and right-wing media wants to keep them.

The link says it's an OANN link. Not really worth paying attention beyond that.

To be as fair as possible, of course, the Black Bloc variety of Antifa actually is a problem, in an absolute sense. For a long time, they've apparently been quite unpopular at peaceful protests. Why? Well... as many of them actually are anarchists, there's a bunch of stories about them just casually stealing stuff from other protestors and generally being idiot PITAs. Violence? Not so common. Arson? Not likely at all. Graffiti? That's much more likely.

But hey, why not look at the people actually charged with crimes in relation to the protests?

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest

Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, Not “Antifa”
An analysis of leaked law enforcement documents reveals an obsession with “antifa” despite evidence of threats of violence to police and protesters.


And, to add some big picture for reference...

While it is difficult to assess with fidelity the identity or ideology of many of the looters, my conversations with law enforcement and intelligence officials in multiple U.S. cities suggest that Antifa played a minor role in violence. The vast majority of looting appeared to come from local opportunists with no affiliation and no political objectives. Most were common criminals.

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Based on a CSIS data set of 893 terrorist incidents in the United States between January 1994 and May 2020, attacks from left-wing perpetrators like Antifa made up a tiny percentage of overall terrorist attacks and casualties. Right-wing terrorists perpetrated the majority—57 percent—of all attacks and plots during this period, particularly those who were white supremacists, anti-government extremists, and involuntary celibates (or incels). In comparison, left-wing extremists orchestrated 25 percent of the incidents during this period, followed by 15 percent from religious terrorists, 3 percent from ethno-nationalists, and 0.7 percent from terrorists with other motives. In analyzing fatalities from terrorist attacks, religious terrorism has killed the largest number of individuals—3,086 people—primarily due to the attacks on September 11, 2001, which caused 2,977 deaths. In comparison, right-wing terrorist attacks caused 335 fatalities, left-wing attacks caused 22 deaths, and ethno-nationalist terrorists caused 5 deaths.

Viewed in this context, the threat from Antifa-associated actors in the United States is relatively small.

Going a bit further on Antifa specifically there, as of July...

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

With that said, Michael Reinoehl can be linked to Antifa and killed Aaron Danielson in August. Too bad we won't find out in court whether he would have been ruled to have acted in self-defense or to have murdered Aaron, because he actually was hunted down and murdered shortly after, to great cheering among extremist right-wingers.
 
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The link says it's an OANN link. Not really worth paying attention beyond that.

To be as fair as possible, of course, the Black Bloc variety of Antifa actually is a problem, in an absolute sense. For a long time, they've apparently been quite unpopular at peaceful protests. Why? Well... as many of them actually are anarchists, there's a bunch of stories about them just casually stealing stuff from other protestors and generally being idiot PITAs. Violence? Not so common. Arson? Not likely at all. Graffiti? That's much more likely.

But hey, why not look at the people actually charged with crimes in relation to the protests?

AP finds most arrested in protests aren’t leftist radicals

No Sign Of Antifa So Far In Justice Department Cases Brought Over Unrest

Leaked Documents Show Police Knew Far-Right Extremists Were the Real Threat at Protests, Not “Antifa”
An analysis of leaked law enforcement documents reveals an obsession with “antifa” despite evidence of threats of violence to police and protesters.


And, to add some big picture for reference...



Going a bit further on Antifa specifically there, as of July...

Anti-fascists linked to zero murders in the US in 25 years

With that said, Michael Reinoehl can be linked to Antifa and killed Aaron Danielson in August. Too bad we won't find out in court whether he would have been ruled to have acted in self-defense or to have murdered Aaron, because he actually was hunted down and murdered shortly after, to great cheering among extremist right-wingers.

Great finds!

That rather does put where the violence is coming from into some perspective, and shows that, once again, the GOP and Trump are lying about this.
 
Great finds!

That rather does put where the violence is coming from into some perspective, and shows that, once again, the GOP and Trump are lying about this.

Mind you, it also strongly suggests that if the right wing extremists really were exactly as violent as BLM and Antifa, that would be a very good thing.

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The joint session begins at 1 PM. If there are objections to 6 states and a full two hours of debate each, that gets to 1 AM plus time to actually count the votes and move back and forth between chambers would probably put it closer to 3 AM.

When an objection is being considered the House or Senate may choose to recess until the following day. They could recess for up to 5 days. They might push things back at least a day or maybe more hoping most of the protestors will leave.

Half that time belongs to the Democrats and pro American Republicans. I doubt they will take anywhere near all their time.
 
Trump Retweeted

The Epoch Times
@EpochTimes
“They fear for their safety and the safety of their families in this hyper-political climate.”
A #Michigan attorney in the case that led to a #ForensicAudit of #VotingMachines asked the court to keep secret the identities of the forensic investigators.
 
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Republicans in Georgia must be careful of the political corruption in Fulton County, which is rampant. The Governor, @BrianKempGA, and his puppet Lt. Governor, @GeoffDuncanGA, have done less than nothing. They are a disgrace to the great people of Georgia!
 
Rep. Jody Hice tweeted

@CongressmanHice
I have the honor of being sworn in today as a Member of Congress for my fourth term.
My oath to support and defend the Constitution has never been more important.
First order of business?
Fight for fair elections by objecting to fraud on Jan 6!
Liberty must be defended!
 
Mind you, it also strongly suggests that if the right wing extremists really were exactly as violent as BLM and Antifa, that would be a very good thing.

Dave

I frequent a few far right sites and its kinda interesting how they simultaneously view "the left" as soy-boy, limp wristed cucks and violent, murderous extremists who are tearing down the fabric of US society.
 
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I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!
 
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“Georgia election data, just revealed, shows that over 17,000 votes illegally flipped from Trump to Biden.” @OANN

This alone (there are many other irregularities) is enough to easily “swing Georgia to Trump”. #StopTheSteal
@HawleyMO
@SenTedCruz
@Jim_Jordan
 
Trump Tweets

I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!

I spoke with Donald Trump yesterday. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such who won the Presidential election or who will be President of the United States of America on January 21. He has no clue!
 
Trump Tweets

I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the “ballots under table” scam, ballot destruction, out of state “voters”, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!

Hardley surprising - George R R Martin hasn’t turned in the last book yet!
 
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