The position of his gloved hand gives it away. It's quite clear.
Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 26
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The position of his gloved hand gives it away. It's quite clear.
timhau
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Now we know what he has been up to during those long days of no official program.
Craig4
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I take it that Fox is covering the massive, COVID-19 surge that is likely to kill tens of thousands of the people he is supposed to protect.
Craig4
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It would be naive to think we don't need a relationship with Saudi Arabia. However, Saudi has lot of princess. We don't need a relationship with MBS.
Susheel
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I guess OANN (the urge to type ONAN is palpable) and Newsmax can now include callouts with "As recommended by the President!" or even "By appointment of President Donal J Trump".
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alfaniner
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Now, that would just be self-serving.
Susheel
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Trebuchet
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That's an awesome typo! At least I hope it's a typo.
Unfortunately, MBS is the de-facto current ruler of SA. We're stuck with him at the moment.
newyorkguy
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Now trump trashes Georgia governor Brian Kemp because a Democratic presidential candidate won a majority of the vote there for the first time since Bill Clinton carried the state in 1992. (Dole out-polled Clinton in Georgia in 1996.)
Incredible story, except that it's perfectly fitting for the Trump admin .
Pennsylvania Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano, the one pushing for the legislature to pick the PA electors, abruptly left a West Wing meeting with Trump last Wednesday, after being informed he had tested positive for COVID-19.
He had gone to the White House after the Gettysburg "hearing" to discuss efforts to overturn Biden’s victory in PA.
After Mastriano, his son and his son’s friend, who were also there for meeting, left, the discussion with Trump continued for about a half-hour.
All participants in Wednesday’s meeting took COVID-19 tests, but the positive results were not announced until they were in the West Wing of the White House.
(Source: https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...rus-pandemic-70354ddc031781fb7ee476809a6b67db)
So we had the Giuliani-Powell event (with at least 2 positive attendants), then the Gettysburg "hearing", then the WH meeting, all maskless.
Then we have WH procedures, where people are tested, but can get into the meetings before the test results are know. When positive results are confirmed, the meeting continues nevertheless.
And why on earth did "his [Mastriano's] son and his son’s friend" attend a meeting to plot the overturning of an election?
Pennsylvania Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano, the one pushing for the legislature to pick the PA electors, abruptly left a West Wing meeting with Trump last Wednesday, after being informed he had tested positive for COVID-19.
He had gone to the White House after the Gettysburg "hearing" to discuss efforts to overturn Biden’s victory in PA.
After Mastriano, his son and his son’s friend, who were also there for meeting, left, the discussion with Trump continued for about a half-hour.
All participants in Wednesday’s meeting took COVID-19 tests, but the positive results were not announced until they were in the West Wing of the White House.
(Source: https://apnews.com/article/joe-bide...rus-pandemic-70354ddc031781fb7ee476809a6b67db)
So we had the Giuliani-Powell event (with at least 2 positive attendants), then the Gettysburg "hearing", then the WH meeting, all maskless.
Then we have WH procedures, where people are tested, but can get into the meetings before the test results are know. When positive results are confirmed, the meeting continues nevertheless.
And why on earth did "his [Mastriano's] son and his son’s friend" attend a meeting to plot the overturning of an election?
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Stacyhs
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What? You expect logic, common sense and competency from the Trump WH? Silly goose!
Norman Alexander
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For Donny, probably about a corgi.
Fast Eddie B
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I have to be reminded of the fable where the scorpion stings his tortoise “ride” across the stream, “Because it’s just in his nature”.
Incredible to me is how blind/naive these folks are up to the point they get stabbed in the back by Trump. It’s so clearly “...just in his nature.”
Yes, it is.
I know I repeat myself, but even after five years I still am not able to even vaguely understand the Trump phenomenon.
That right-wing populism could succeed in the US? Sure, why not? It works in a number of European countries, so why not in the US.
But comparing Trump to "my" populist leaders in Belgium, the differences are just staggering. Contrary to Trump, our populist leaders:
1. are literate, talk in full sentences, in correct Dutch;
2. if they are corrupt, they don't show it, and certainly don't brag about it;
3. they are capable to show human feelings;
4. they understand the nitty gritty of politics;
5. they actually work hard in parliament or city council (don't do much good imho, but it's not that they play golf all the time);
6. the fights they pick mostly make some sense (from their point of view).
(Same for say, Salvini in Italy, or Marine Le Pen in France.)
I never would vote for them, I despise them as much as I despise Trump, but at least I can understand why someone who thinks that his/her world is about to be taken over by the "others" sees them as a political saviour.
How on earth so many people became cultists for such a dumb, unappealing, narcissistic, ridiculous figure as Trump? Never got it, still don't.
Craig4
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The difference is that the US does not have the social safety nets that most of Europe has. When the economy isn't working for you and education is so expensive it's out of reach, you are just screwed. We have a huge group of our population left behind by the technology, information and financial economies and no prospects for improving their lot. At the same time wealth is increasing but wages are mostly stagnant Donald Trump is the rock these people threw through our window.
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Because you are missing the obvious answer: racism
Everything you said makes perfect sense, and so obviously something is missing. And what you didn't bring up was the fact that he is just as racist as they are.
Something like 70% of trumpets believe that white, christian men are the most discriminated against group in the US. More than black people, more than women. And, in fact, they believed that to be the case back in 2017 when Trump was literally trying to ban Muslims from entering the country. But no, the real victims are white, christian men.
I don't know all the Trump supporters in the world, but of the Trump supporters I know, the one thing they have in common is that they are highly racist (that's my family, by the way).
I mean, how else could small town midwest people claim that NYC gold toilet Trump is "one of us"? What is it that he has in common with them? Working class christian values? I don't think so....
The Great Zaganza
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You might have to take a closer look at the religious/conservative/science denier angle.
For many right-wingers, accepting unfavorable facts is a kind of selling-out: if you are letting your opponents challenge you on your lies, you are letting them get the better of you. Better to lie and ignore reality than to admit that others are right when they criticize you.
Trump is their True Defender, since he is willing to sacrifice his credibility, shame, morality and honesty to Make America Great Again.
Trump lying and being ridiculous is proof of his commitment to The Cause.
That difference might explain that is easier for a populist to gain power in the US than in Western Europe. It doesn't explain the million of Trump cultists (I mean the person Trump).
I listed some differences between the political leaders.
Racism is a common element between these populist parties in Europe and the US. (I do know that there are differences, mainly that racism in the US is much more systemic that in Western Europe.)
That's indeed a real difference. And may explain why precisely a Trumplike figure can pull it off.
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