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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Huge court win lets Trump present ballot evidence, could overturn Nevada result
In its first court victory, a Nevada judge has agreed to let the Trump campaign present its evidence that fraud and illegalities plagued the state’s election, enough to reverse Joe Biden's win and...
washingtonexaminer.com
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Standards for "Trumpy winning" have fallen perilously low when a judge asking you to provide evidence in your own case is considered a "success".
 
Financial markets conspire to make cheater Biden look good:

It’s obviously very early, but the market reality has been the opposite of what Donald Trump predicted for his rival -- a crash. Since Election Day, the S&P 500 has surged 7.7%, the second-best gain in 90 years and nearly triple the advance that followed Trump’s 2016 victory. The index has closed at a record three times, and gauges of smaller companies and global assets have hit new highs.

“Markets are looking at Biden’s actions, and so far, they like them,” said Yousef Abbasi, global market strategist at StoneX.
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27 States have certified the election as of today.

Delaware (Nov 5)
Vermont (Nov 10)
South Dakota (Nov 10)
Oklahoma (Nov 10)
Louisiana (Nov 10)
Wyoming (Nov 11)
South Carolina (Nov 11)
Mississippi (Nov 13)
Virginia (originally Nov 16; completed Nov 18)
Florida (Nov 17)
Massachusetts (Nov 18)
Idaho (Nov 18)
Arkansas (Nov 18)
North Dakota (Nov 20)
Georgia (Nov 20)
Utah (Nov 23)
Pennsylvania (Nov 23)
Michigan (Nov 23)
Maine (Nov 23)
Kentucky (Nov 23)
Ohio (Nov 24)
North Carolina (Nov 24)
New Mexico (Nov 24)
Nevada (Nov 24)
Minnesota (Nov 24)
Indiana (Nov 24)
Alaska (Nov 25)

States left to still certify and each State's certification deadlines

Nebraska (Nov 30)
Montana (Nov 30)
Iowa (Nov 30)
Colorado (Nov 30)
Arizona (Nov 30)
Wisconsin (Dec 1)
Kansas (Dec 1)
New Hampshire (Dec 2)
District of Columbia (Dec 2)
West Virginia (Dec 3)
Washington (Dec 3)
Texas (Dec 3)
Oregon (Dec 3)
Connecticut (Dec 3)
Illinois (Dec 4)
New York (Dec 7)
New Jersey (Dec 8)
Missouri (Dec 8)
Maryland (Dec 8)
California (Dec 11)
 
Any sign of Powell's state blowing up, independent, "go-it-alone" biblical filing?
 
Firestone said:
We've had our authoritarians in the electorate as a significant force since the early nineties in the Flanders. Their party oscillated between less than 10% to 24% in these years, now again well over 20% in the polls.

Nothing has worked: ignoring them, castigating them, having other parties talk tough against immigrants, etc ...

Hope your pros are smarter than ours.
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Outvoting them works.


slyjoe said:
He retweeted himself?
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He's done that a lot for quite a while now.

Trebuchet said:
It's long been known that only part of Trump's tweets are done by Trump himself. The retweet may have been by a staffer frantically retweeting anything Trump would agree with and not noticing who it was from.
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Possible, but I think it's very likely that Trump's just being lazy about the format for repeating his lies.

SezMe said:
I don't that'll happen. He doesn't want to risk being a LOSER again; I don't think he liked being president; he'll most likely have some other scam going on; he'll be so demented by then that even being in public will be painful to his cultists.

More likely we'll see some younger GOP snots like Tom Cotton try to assume leadership of the cult.
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Maybe. If one remembers that it's more about the rush, the attention on him, and the grift, though, the campaigning doesn't have to be about winning or losing at all. If he campaigned until just before he thought that he would be arrested and then fled to, say, Azerbaijan, he'd fairly certainly count that as a win.
 
Wisconsin has completed 95 percent of their recount in Milwaukee and Dane Counties. The rest of the ballots plus 386 uncounted ballots are expected to be counted on Friday The only other glitch of any merit were 65 ballots that were counted on election night that had gone missing. The ballots were later found in an election machine in a secure Milwaukee warehouse. These will be recounted on Friday. This will square the totals with the original election count.

Trump and the GOP are trying to get votes thrown out. The Trump campaign succesfully requested that two types of ballots be segregated. On the first day of the recount, the Board of Canvassers agreed to set apart those ballot envelopes from people who are indefinitely confined and thus exempt from the state's photo ID law; and a second group, where the ink color on the witness address and signature are different indicating the clerk fixed it, a policy the Wisconsin Elections Commission has allowed for years.

No idea how many ballots are affected.

Beyond these issues to be resolved, the Trump campaign reduced Biden's lead of 20,546 by 52 votes.
 
Aridas said:
Outvoting them works.
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Sure, we have being doing that since ... always actually.

And, as Paul2 noticed here ...
Paul2 said:
Maybe they could learn from your experience, although our mileage might vary given the differences between our Congress and your parliamentary system.
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... our parliamentary system with proportional representation makes it somewhat easier to deal with this basket of deplorables.

Still, having such a big pool of basically antidemocratic voters is debilitating in the long run.

(But maybe that should go in another thread)
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

Mark Meadows
@MarkMeadows
BIG news in Nevada: a Judge has allowed NV Republicans to present findings of widespread voter fraud in a Dec. 3rd hearing. Americans will now hear evidence from those who saw firsthand what happened—a critical step for transparency and remedying illegal ballots. Stay tuned.
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:popcorn1
 
Firestone said:
Sure, we have being doing that since ... always actually.

And, as Paul2 noticed here ...


... our parliamentary system with proportional representation makes it somewhat easier to deal with this basket of deplorables.

Still, having such a big pool of basically antidemocratic voters is debilitating in the long run.

(But maybe that should go in another thread)
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Yeah. A little more seriously, I suspect that one of the main things that can be done is to figure out what conditions make it more likely for people to become authoritarians and work to prevent/change those conditions.
 
Aridas said:
Outvoting them works.
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Not consistently enough here. We have a combination of a higher number of them, fewer alternative parties to work together against their party (1 instead of more than 1), and a Constitutionally mandated system that's rigged in their favor even when they get the fewest votes, both for President and for the more powerful branch of Congress, none of which we can really do anything about in the near future. Also, the only major party other than theirs has for years been hellbent on being utterly useless and giving the voters nothing positive to vote for instead, although that last one, at least in theory, could change.
 
BillC said:
My money would be on Ivanka.


ADD: provided she is not in legal difficulties from matters relating to the current administration.
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Ivanka would be good. She has about as much carisma as last week's newspaper. She can't hold a fraction of daddy's following.:p

Hans
 
Robin said:
Any sign of Powell's state blowing up, independent, "go-it-alone" biblical filing?
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dudalb said:
But Bubba keeps telling us the Kraken is going be unleased any day now...
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And it has:

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