You are really in denial, aren't you. Or you can't see past your nose.
Let me say, or rather ask, it in simple words.
This is coup attempt (level of competency does not matter). Yes or no?
Even unsuccessful coup will make next time way, way easier. Yes or no?
The question is pedantic and has no deeper meaning. Thermal agrees.
I of course agree that it is ****** up five ways from Sunday. What I disagree with is that is is anything remotely like a coup.
Every definition of a coup has something like "wresting control" or "seizing power" , bloody or not. In short, you have to have some teeth in there somewhere, be it guns or popular support or something, anything, to make it happen. That's why I think it falls far short of anything coup-ish. Its yapping, being met with a flat "nope" in four-part harmony with feeling.
... Shouldn't we be focusing on the things that might be, you know, real?
Yes we should be focusing on the risks we still face.
Not quite comparable there, Icerat willingly giving you the forum because you asked wouldn't violate norms, ethics or principles of forum ownership.
If you began insisting daily that you were the rightful owner of the forum and that Icerat had stolen it from you and started having your lawyers calling the Forum's webhost demanding they turn it over to you, we'd be getting a little warmer.
The issue with a coup isn't just "Trying to get in power" but trying to do so in a way that subverts the established lawful and ethical grounding of power.
But I think there's a further misunderstanding here in where the danger lies.
I feel like you and likely SG seem to be thinking "There is no way that between the courts, appeals to stop certification of results and any faithless electors or other comparable legal shenanigans that 37 electoral college votes are changed from the current predictions to cast for Trump instead of Biden"
And on that point, I think most people in this thread are in agreement.The fact that the legal appeal won't work isn't the point.
This is an important point. There is no need to debate this, it is a distraction from the issues at hand.
All you argue is that unsuccessful murder attempt is no big deal.
Others already addressed your BS claim that current ongoing coup (however inept and incompetent), do not have "teeth in there somewhere". ...
so your stances is that Trump can absolutely try to shoot someone on 5th Avenue if he is just a bad enough shot.
Got it.
More accurate analogy: he stands on fifth Avenue pointing finger guns and saying "Pew Pew". Still swooning, are you?
My neighbor wrote this and it seems appropriate here as well as funny:
I have a case here....hear me out:
I’m suing Powerball. They stole my lottery jackpot because I wasn’t allowed to clearly see the ping pong balls as they were selected. Plus, there were fraudulent ping pong balls in the machine. I know this because the numbers drawn were not on my ticket. What’s especially suspicious is that I bought my ticket on a Saturday, yet the drawing did not take place until Tuesday! Why the delay? Obviously, it was so they had more time to rig the drawing.
And Rudy Giuliani says he'll represent me for $25,000 a day. I'm going to be a winner.
I said pages ago that we should stop worrying about Trump refusing to leave office because he will be out on Jan 20 regardless of all his shenanigans.
And I think what I said has borne out. He's out of legal options except maybe a few more delays. This is not going to the SCOTUS or if it does it will be to stop the appeals. There is nothing here for the SCOTUS to work with other than destroying democracy themselves.
As for state legislatures flipping their states, that was never more than a hypothetical pipe dream Trump fantasized about. I honestly don't know why anyone here seriously worried it was even remotely possible.
So where does that leave us? Trump might, as an act of revenge, keep Biden locked out until Jan 20th. Or the pressure might be too great for him and he'll give up sooner. Maybe he'll go golfing or slink off to Mar-a-Lago.
There is little doubt he will be egging on violence for many months to come. That is a worry.
It always has been.
