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I just listened to Aaron Van Langevelde speaking at the Michigan Board of State Canvassers meeting. He says that the Board of State Canvassers has no authority to order an audit, and that the law is clear. They have to vote to approve the county results.

He is one of the two Republicans on the board.

Norman Shinkle, the other Republican is speaking now. He's going to vote against.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be 3-1, and Trump will lose.

Can I say that again? Trump will lose. It's just fun to say.

ETA: Dang. I didn't think I would be ninja'd on that one.
 
Meadmaker said:
I just listened to Aaron Van Langevelde speaking at the Michigan Board of State Canvassers meeting. He says that the Board of State Canvassers has no authority to order an audit, and that the law is clear. They have to vote to approve the county results.

He is one of the two Republicans on the board.

Norman Shinkle, the other Republican is speaking now. He's going to vote against.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be 3-1, and Trump will lose.

Can I say that again? Trump will lose. It's just fun to say.

ETA: Dang. I didn't think I would be ninja'd on that one.
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Maybe one of the Democrats will flip.;)
 
Meadmaker said:
I just listened to Aaron Van Langevelde speaking at the Michigan Board of State Canvassers meeting. He says that the Board of State Canvassers has no authority to order an audit, and that the law is clear. They have to vote to approve the county results.

He is one of the two Republicans on the board.

Norman Shinkle, the other Republican is speaking now. He's going to vote against.

I'm pretty sure it's going to be 3-1, and Trump will lose.

Can I say that again? Trump will lose. It's just fun to say.

ETA: Dang. I didn't think I would be ninja'd on that one.
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lol

Copypasting a tweet goes faster than actually writing a post.

But good news bears repeating.

If I'm not mistaken, Trump shenanigans now need to "flip" Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona for Trump to "win". Or many faithless electors. Seems highly unlikely.
 
I find it odd Trump's team is so focused on MI when it seems to me that WI would be easier to corrupt. WI's legislature is full of Trump admirers (see: Ron Johnson, Tom Tiffany, Robin Vos, et al)
 
Firestone said:
lol

Copypasting a tweet goes faster than actually writing a post.

But good news bears repeating.

If I'm not mistaken, Trump shenanigans now need to "flip" Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Arizona for Trump to "win". Or many faithless electors. Seems highly unlikely.
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Pennsylvania certifies today as well.
 
Darat said:
Yeah, Trump was promoted as a successful business man for a "reality" TV show. If he hadn't got that role he would still be ringing up newspapers badly pretending to be John Miller or John Barron bragging who he is banging.
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Exactly!

For those of you unfamiliar with these incidents. When Trump had nothing better to do, he would call up newspapers, claim to be John Barron (recently-hired PR executive for Trump), and tell columnists and reporters how amazing Donald Trump was and how stunning all the women he was sleeping with were. The newspaper employees knew it was Trump himself. So sad.

That’s the guy we elected to be president.
 
Galaxie said:
I find it odd Trump's team is so focused on MI when it seems to me that WI would be easier to corrupt. WI's legislature is full of Trump admirers (see: Ron Johnson, Tom Tiffany, Robin Vos, et al)
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I think Trump's team is multitasking, looking anywhere they can all at once. Those crazy 3D chess players are like that.


Trump's enemies, though, became more focused on Michigan because it was such a blatant attempt to overthrow an election, and it had a very specific time when it would come to a head. With lawsuits, it's kind of more of the same stuff, and the judge is likely to issue a ruling some time today.


If one of Trump's lawsuits actually gets anywhere, I think there will be a lot of focus on it, but that seems pretty darned unlikely. I don't buy the "saving their best" argument. I think we've seen the best, and it isn't good enough to get them more than a rapid dismissal at the lowest level. I doubt any of them will get to oral arguments at an appeals court. Amy Coney Barrett won't even get tested by a significant election law case.
 
JoeMorgue said:
In Tom Clancy's "Executive Decision" President Ryan's Presidency is legally validated because the lawsuit from the disgraced and resigned former VP (claiming he never completed the process of resigning before the previous President was killed, ergo he's the President) actually used the term "President of the United States" in the lawsuit.

And I thought that, in a work of fiction, was the stupidest way you could accidently prove you're not the President.
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Now don't get me wrong: These books were still silly and simplistic (particularly when Clancy pretends Ryan is a centrist and that a flat income tax makes sense), but this particular story beat isn't as absurd as some make it out to be. It was less that the court confirmed Ryan as president and more that the ex-VP took wind out of his own sails by acknowledging Ryan was the president in his own filing when he should have claimed that every Ryan executive order was illegal because he's not legally POTUS. It was already an uphill battle because the ex-VP had publicly resigned and the Congress confirmed Ryan as VP right before the plane was crashed into the Capitol Building...again, yes, silly.
 
JoeMorgue said:
In Tom Clancy's "Executive Decision" President Ryan's Presidency is legally validated because the lawsuit from the disgraced and resigned former VP (claiming he never completed the process of resigning before the previous President was killed, ergo he's the President) actually used the term "President of the United States" in the lawsuit.

And I thought that, in a work of fiction, was the stupidest way you could accidently prove you're not the President.
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Babbylonian said:
Now don't get me wrong: These books were still silly and simplistic (particularly when Clancy pretends Ryan is a centrist and that a flat income tax makes sense), but this particular story beat isn't as absurd as some make it out to be. It was less that the court confirmed Ryan as president and more that the ex-VP took wind out of his own sails by acknowledging Ryan was the president in his own filing when he should have claimed that every Ryan executive order was illegal because he's not legally POTUS. It was already an uphill battle because the ex-VP had publicly resigned and the Congress confirmed Ryan as VP right before the plane was crashed into the Capitol Building...again, yes, silly.
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This is a bit pedantic. But whatever. The book title is not "Executive Decision". It is "Executive Orders". I was at one time a big Clancy fan. His books got more ridiculous with each successive book.
 
acbytesla said:
This is a bit pedantic. But whatever. The book title is not "Executive Decision". It is "Executive Orders". I was at one time a big Clancy fan. His books got more ridiculous with each successive book.
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IMHO they begun to go south when he made Jack Ryan president...
 
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