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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Captain_Swoop said:
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Breaking News:

Thanksgiving turkey spared by President Trump at White House has now joined Rudy Giuliani's election "strike force" team.

More details to follow....
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Well, maybe now their court fillings and oral arguments will have some meat to them.


Or

Didn't the team have enough turkeys on it already?


Or

Least we now know who's gonna get their heads chopped off at the end of all of this.

Or,

Great, now the team has an old dumb bird with a crepe neck and a turkey
 
thaiboxerken said:
He was America's Mayor in the same way Trump was a successful businessman.
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Yeah, Trump was promoted as a successful business man for a "reality" TV show. If he hadn't got that role he would still be ringing up newspapers pretending to be John Miller or John Barron bragging who he is banging.
 
The Don said:
It seems that President Trump has almost exhausted his options to litigate his way to the Presidency so it makes sense to move to the next phase - to get the results overturned through the actions of state legislatures and faithless electors.

The legal brouhaha has been an excellent distraction while GOP leaders can cajole and twist arms in the states. It's looking worrying in Michigan:

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/all-eyes-michigan-election-certification

....and Pennsylvania Republicans have already showed willing :(
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I know you've had other things going on, but this is mostly all resolved. Trump keeps repeating over and over assertions that were rejected by the courts.

Doesn't matter. His goal is to make sure those election falsehoods are clearly embedded in his cult followers' brains.


As for turning state legislatures into Trump minions, it's all a Trump fantasy. Someone told trump there was a hypothetical way to change state votes and he latched onto it as if it could happen all for the love of Trump. It never was going to happen (though to read some of the posts here people believed it was more than fantasy).

I believe by the end of the week all the swing states will have certified their results (AZ, MI, NV, PA, GA). I'll be surprised if Trump's dream team will successfully delay any of those states certifying their votes but I supposed it is remotely possible. Trump most certainly isn't going to get those states' legislatures to overturn their states' votes.



acbytesla said:
It really is impossible to verify this. It might happen. But this is really anecdotal.
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Yes and not only that, too many things would get in the way.

First, where are these nursing home visitors getting ballots for those residents? Registering and getting absentee ballot applications filled out, maybe. But the staff aren't going to just give the ballots to random visitors.

Second, a lot of those people have family members. They would object.

Third, all those nursing homes are seriously limiting visitors.

Fourth, why wouldn't just as many Republicans as Democrats be doing this were it possible?

Fifth, not enough votes would be gained to make it worthwhile.
 
Meadmaker said:
I think a lot of it is a form of confirmation bias. The Republican observers are primed to see misdeeds at every turn, so they interpret things as nefarious, when in fact they are not. There are numerous complaints about this sort of thing, all from Republicans, of course, but as we've seen in a whole bunch of complaints already, they are misinterpreting, exaggerating, and distorting reality in a whole variety of ways.

One of the things that is also true is that I don't know exactly who was counting ballots down at the TCF Center in Detroit, but I do know that they live and work in Detroit. That means a large majority of them probably voted for Biden, and it's a safe bet that some of them hated Donald Trump. It's inconceivable that when surrounded by politics that no one ever gave any hint of where their personal political leanings went. Of course the counters were mostly pro-Biden, and the Republican watchers knew that, so it made them paranoid and inclined to interpret everything they said or heard in a negative light.
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That may all be so, but ... how did they perpetrate this massive fraud? I mean, there may have been some uncertain ballots (I have no idea what a US ballot looks like), but how would they shift thousands of ballots, even if they would like to?

Hans
 
Republicans in Luzerne county, PA refused to certify the county election results. However they were outvoted 3-2 by Democrats on the board.

Trump won Luzerne county 86k to 64k.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yes and not only that, too many things would get in the way.

First, where are these nursing home visitors getting ballots for those residents? Registering and getting absentee ballot applications filled out, maybe. But the staff aren't going to just give the ballots to random visitors.

Second, a lot of those people have family members. They would object.

Third, all those nursing homes are seriously limiting visitors.

Fourth, why wouldn't just as many Republicans as Democrats be doing this were it possible?

Fifth, not enough votes would be gained to make it worthwhile.
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I wasn't speaking specifically about this election. I've heard these kind of theories for decades. The nursing home anecdote is just one of many. Another is party workers rounding up homeless people and paying them to vote. Or husbands taking their wive's ballots. All of which are theoretically possible. But finding evidence for them is hard to come by.
Even harder these days with everyone carrying a video camera in their pocket.
 
Biden's lead continues to grow.

President Elect Joseph Biden:79,869,680

President Reject Donald Trump: 73,811,138

Difference: 6,058,542
 
acbytesla said:
President Elect Joseph Biden:79,869,680

President Reject Donald Trump: 73,811,138

Difference: 6,058,542
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Man where did the Democrats find that many illegal dead brown out of state people to vote?

//Sarcasm hopefully obvious//
 
Darat said:
Is shooting yourself in the foot a new national obsession?
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“Republicans refusing to certify elections results that show *their candidate won* is literally the purest distillate of their campaign’s efficacy”

PA Lt. gov John Fetterman
 
Regnad Kcin said:
That everyone's been wrong all along and should instead be referring to Trump as Mister Presidential?
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Well they have amended their appeal for their appeal to have an amendment added to their original filing... as I said in another thread, you couldn't make it up.
 
In Tom Clancy's "Executive Decision" President Ryan's Presidency is legally validated because the lawsuit from the disgraced and resigned former VP (claiming he never completed the process of resigning before the previous President was killed, ergo he's the President) actually used the term "President of the United States" in the lawsuit.

And I thought that, in a work of fiction, was the stupidest way you could accidently prove you're not the President.
 
Dave Wasserman of Cook Political estimates 1.5 to 2.5 million votes left. Mostly in New York
 
Delvo said:
That would explain it if the weird obsession with his lack of response to Trump's comments had only started after he started working for Trump, but they didn't. It was immediate, while they were still opponents.
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Oh? I guess my memory is faulty then. My mistake.
 
Firestone said:
"Republican canvasser AARON VAN LANGEVELDE announces he will vote to certify Michigan's election results.

It's over, folks. Joe Biden officially wins Michigan."
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Yeah! Shouldn't have been this drama, but as long as it is done.
 
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