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Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

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Craig4 said:
Their kind lack the intelligence to understand that they do look foolish. They just like the circus and aren't smart enough to notice that the bread keeps being delayed.
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If waiting in Russian breadlines to watch an American circus doesn't isn't the best metaphor for the perfect mixture the worst parts of too little freedom and too little safety net we've managed to balance ourselves onto the last few years I don't know what does.
 
Rudy: My answer is A.
Regis: Is that your final answer?
Rudy: I think the answer is B.
Regis: So, you’re answer is B. Is that your final answer?
Rudy: Yes, I’m going with C.
Regis: Sorry, C is not the correct answer.
Rudy: That’s why I said B.
Regis: You said C was your answer.
Rudy: But I said B was my final answer.
Regis: But you changed it to C.
Rudy: My final answer was B.
Regis: Well, B also is not the correct answer.
Rudy: Of course not. That’s why my answer was A.
Regis: You just said your final answer was B.
Rudy: But my first answer was A.
Regis: Sorry, A is also not the correct answer.
Rudy: That is why I correctly answered D.
Regis: You did not.
Rudy: But that is what I meant. The correct answer is D.
Regis: No. D is still not the correct answer. There is no correct answer because all the responses you posed are bat-nuts hobby-horse hoof-nosed insane you bug-eyed bile-dripping bull’s-pizzle of no one good quality.
 
Bubba said:
The FBI is not interested, according to Sidney Powell. The FBI is not dong its job.
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What's to do? Trump's legal and landscaping team hasn't alleged any fraud. More to the point, if people called the FBI to report fraud, how do you know they haven't investigated and determined that there was no fraud, or that the investigation is ongoing and they aren't talking about it? Have any election commissioners reported fraud to the FBI? What do you expect them to do, go randomly to polling places in the hopes of stumbling upon a case of fraud?
 
Some people understand it is not over until it is over.


This sounds like one of those pretending it is over before it is over:


trustbutverify said:
Besides the blubbering of the emotionally troubled, do you have any shred of credible evidence for massive voter fraud? Something more substantial than the "evidence" for a flat earth?
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Whatever.

Trump believes the election was stolen.

Can you see him giving up??

Get back to us when it is actually over.
 
Shocking news:

There are people who understand it is not over until it is over.


This sounds like one of those pretending it is over before it is over:


Craig4 said:
What's to do? Trump's legal and landscaping team hasn't alleged any fraud. More to the point, if people called the FBI to report fraud, how do you know they haven't investigated and determined that there was no fraud, or that the investigation is ongoing and they aren't talking about it? Have any election commissioners reported fraud to the FBI? What do you expect them to do, go randomly to polling places in the hopes of stumbling upon a case of fraud?
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Whatever.

Trump believes the election was stolen.

Can you see him giving up??

Get back to us when it is actually over.
 
"It's over" is not dependant on both sides agreeing it is over.

The war between Japan and the US ended in August of 1945, regardless of Hiroo Onoda's or Teruo Nakamura's opinions on the matter.
 
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Bubba said:
Some people understand it is not over until it is over.


This sounds like one of those pretending it is over before it is over:
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It's been over since the 3rd of November, its only wannabe fascists like yourself who refuse to deal with reality.
 
Yeah there's not a lot of universal truths when it comes to judges, but "They generally don't like having their time wasted" is pretty close to one.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
This is likely the issue that will come up. While Justice Alito ordered PA to segregate the votes on Friday Nov 6th, the issue will be how many were segregated and how can anyone trust that PA did the right thing now. After all, without being ordered to do so, they had no intention of separating ballots. Who can say the exact number of ballots in question. A corrupt official need only say "Sure we complied with the Court's order and we only saw 3 ballots that came in late. OK we'll throw those out, they were all Trump votes anyway."
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phiwum said:
They were already segregating the late ballots before Alito's decision.

Of course, since you're willing to say that PA officials are all lying scum, there's no reason to believe them. It would take only one county official to prove otherwise, I reckon. If only there was some Republican working somewhere in this election apparatus...
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It's no good, you're arguing with someone who is deploying the last-gasp* "who can say?" tactic of denial. No evidence sufficient for court? The GOP's lawyers themselves say they're not alleging fraud? Republican officials working in the system that need to be complicit in a fraud against their own party? None of that matters- all you need is to imagine a scenario that's maybe as plausible as anything evidence could show or logic support, and, voilà- "who can say?" It's irrefutable because it works against the concept of evidence or logic, even against the concept of refutation- it's unanswerable because that's its design and only purpose.

*Or, as Abe Lincoln might have said, "down to the raisins." A little girl makes herself violently ill by gorging on raisins, then piling a bunch of other junk on top. After a prolonged bout of vomiting, she said she was knew she was going to be better soon, because "I've got down to the raisins." Somehow, that little story seems very appropriate here...
 
Bubba said:
Some people understand it is not over until it is over.


This sounds like one of those pretending it is over before it is over:


Whatever.

Trump believes the election was stolen.

Can you see him giving up??

Get back to us when it is actually over.
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I don't think for one second that Trump believes the election was stolen. He has always been someone who will lie, cheat and bully others to succeed. This was true as a real estate developer and as POTUS.

No, I don't see him giving up. But the earth continues to spin. The facts are what they are and 30 cases into this, they have proven no fraud. All we see are press conferences, television interviews, op-eds and tweets alleging grand wild conspiracies.

But push comes to shove, 20 days after the election, absolutely nothing has been presented.
 
Bubba said:
Whatever.

Trump believes the election was stolen.

Can you see him giving up??

Get back to us when it is actually over.
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Can someone remind me which stage of grief this is? It seems like acceptance, but not quite. Bargaining?
 
JoeMorgue said:
"It's over" is not dependant on both sides agreeing it is over.

The war between Japan and the US ended in August of 1945, regardless of Hiroo Onoda's or Teruo Nakamura's opinions on the matter.
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Fantastic example. :thumbsup:
 
*3 years from now, Trump supporters are watching Donald's funeral*

"I'm telling ya, this is all part of the plan. 4-D Chess!
 
turingtest said:
It's no good, you're arguing with someone who is deploying the last-gasp* "who can say?" tactic of denial. No evidence sufficient for court? The GOP's lawyers themselves say they're not alleging fraud? Republican officials working in the system that need to be complicit in a fraud against their own party? None of that matters- all you need is to imagine a scenario that's maybe as plausible as anything evidence could show or logic support, and, voilà- "who can say?" It's irrefutable because it works against the concept of evidence or logic, even against the concept of refutation- it's unanswerable because that's its design and only purpose.

*Or, as Abe Lincoln might have said, "down to the raisins." A little girl makes herself violently ill by gorging on raisins, then piling a bunch of other junk on top. After a prolonged bout of vomiting, she said she was knew she was going to be better soon, because "I've got down to the raisins." Somehow, that little story seems very appropriate here...
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You are arguing with somebody who buys into the image of Trump as someone who Always Wins.
 
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