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Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

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turingtest said:
So, in addition to the objection above, that "they" would know which ballots to take so the voters wouldn't know, your "someone on the inside" would also need to know which ballots to take to be sure he was taking the right ones, i.e., Trump's and not Biden's. Unless you think he was just taking them at random and hoping for the best...:rolleyes:

No, sorry, I think I'll stick with the verifiable facts.
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ICYMI, ChrisBFRPKY explained part of that problem away by stating:

"Not if you targeted registered Republican voters. In that case you'd hear some complaints and allegations of fraud. You know, kinda like we're hearing now."

Can't you see that our intrepid leftist ballot thief network working for the USPS methodically removed 300k ballots of registered Republicans across multiple states and then carefully removed the ballots from the sealed envelopes, bleached out the mark next to Trumps name, marked it for Biden, resealed everything, and delivered them to the correct precinct. It couldn't be any simpler.
 
a_unique_person said:
Sidney Powell is going to take us all down.


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"Joining us tonight is Sidney Powell, a member of Trump's legal team, General Flynn's defence attorney, a great American and prominent appellate lawyer"

Dobbs forgot to mention some of Powell's other "qualities", like liar, perjurer, bat-**** crazy conspiracy theorist and alt-right frootloop.
 
Dobbs forgot to mention some of Powell's other "qualities", like liar, perjurer, bat-**** crazy conspiracy theorist and alt-right frootloop.
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Now, now. That isn't true. He made that quite clear in your very first sentence:

smartcooky said:
"Joining us tonight is Sidney Powell, a member of Trump's legal team, General Flynn's defence attorney, a great American and prominent appellate lawyer"
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How could he have made it any clearer than that?
 
surrogate said:
ICYMI, ChrisBFRPKY explained part of that problem away by stating:

"Not if you targeted registered Republican voters. In that case you'd hear some complaints and allegations of fraud. You know, kinda like we're hearing now."

Can't you see that our intrepid leftist ballot thief network working for the USPS methodically removed 300k ballots of registered Republicans across multiple states and then carefully removed the ballots from the sealed envelopes, bleached out the mark next to Trumps name, marked it for Biden, resealed everything, and delivered them to the correct precinct. It couldn't be any simpler.
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Yup- reverse-engineered conspiracies are the very best kind.
 
Bob001 said:
The Postal Service has said explicitly that they stopped scanning some ballots close to Election Day to deliver them faster. That's entirely apart from the systems election authorities use to track processing of the ballots they've received. In most states voters can go on-line to be sure their ballot has been counted.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...vered-ballots-time-amid-concern-over-n1246451


https://www.inquirer.com/politics/p...order-philadelphia-pennsylvania-20201104.html

No state authority has claimed that any part of 300,000 ballots disappeared.
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https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/u...or-300-000-missing-mailed-ballots-95317573860

Maybe you'll understand it better if you watch it on MSNBC.

The missing ballots were meant for the swing states. Isn't that odd?

As far as state authority missing them I suppose the case number is somewhere to be found. Someone was looking for 300K ballots and the Judge ordered the USPS to find them but the USPS missed the deadline and defied the court's order. Isn't that odd too?

I realize you may not be concerned because you may believe your guy is in the lead. But consider this, if those ballots are indeed still missing as the evidence suggests, why couldn't they show up during a recount all marked for Trump? The answer is, they could.
 
turingtest said:
Yup- reverse-engineered conspiracies are the very best kind.
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It is not conspiracy that over 300K ballots were not confirmed delivered by the USPS and have been "misplaced" in the system. It is fact.

It is also fact that the USPS was court ordered to sweep its facilities to find those misplaced ballots. The USPS violated the order.

If this does not concern you it should.
 
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Look out, missiles hit the Pentagon. There's a new dumb-ass sheriff in town.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
It is not conspiracy that over 300K ballots were not confirmed delivered by the USPS and have been "misplaced" in the system. It is fact.

It is also fact that the USPS was court ordered to sweep its facilities to find those misplaced ballots. The USPS violated the order.

If this does not concern you it should.
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it does - very much.

But who is in charge of the USPS? Since when? Who put him there, despite massive conflicts of interest?
I see no Republicans putting any pressure on deJoy, now or after he dismantled sorting machines that would have helped process the ballots faster.
 
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newyorkguy said:
There is evidence that trump faces financial ruin and possibly prison if he can't figure out a way to get a second term as president. And trump knows it. That the public should not expect trump to give up the fight to overturn the election results until the day he is physically forced from the White House, if then. From a long New Yorker magazine article clearly describing the dilemma trump finds himself in.


trump's entire history has been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. he has always wound up going down in flames. Why would this time be any different? I'm betting (and hoping) it won't be.
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In one of my news surfing websites (sorry, no link) someone who knows Trump said he was focused on whatever next media/money making endeavor he would follow his presidency with.

It's not like he hasn't experienced an investment failure before. He's used to bouncing back to the next thing. It's a good sign he realizes he lost the election. He may have little flurries of hope here and there, but he knows he lost.

Trump: "I'm so over you America. You never were my type."

What he's doing with the Pentagon departments however, is an issue we won't know about until we see what he's up to.
 
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ChrisBFRPKY said:
It is not conspiracy that over 300K ballots were not confirmed delivered by the USPS and have been "misplaced" in the system. It is fact.

It is also fact that the USPS was court ordered to sweep its facilities to find those misplaced ballots. The USPS violated the order.

If this does not concern you it should.
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How did the Deep State/USPS decide on exactly the right ballots to lose in order to steal the election from Trump?
 
trustbutverify said:
How did the Deep State/USPS decide on exactly the right ballots to lose in order to steal the election from Trump?
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Given that in this election Democrats voted to a far higher degree than Republicans by mail, we can safely assume that a big majority of ballots held up by deJoy would have not have been for Trump.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
it does - very much.

But who is in charge of the USPS? Since when? Who put him there, despite massive conflicts of interest?
I see no Republicans putting any pressure on deJoy, now or after he dismantled sorting machines that would have helped process the ballots faster.
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Congratulations.

Who would be more likely to defy a court order? Someone with their career and retirement at risk or someone that has been promised protection at the highest level?

July 10th 2nd memo to internal USPS employees:

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/31/usps0731.pdf

The interesting part in the memo:

" One aspect of these changes that may be difficult for employees is that.- temporarily we may see mail left behind or mail on the workroom floor or docks (in P&DCs), which is not typical. "

To me it is concerning. How many swing state ballots would be needed to change the results? 300K? Isn't it odd almost that exact amount was never confirmed as delivered by the USPS?
 
To be clear my concerns above are just that concerns and not allegations. The facts that are not in dispute are the 300K ballots that were never confirmed to be delivered and the USPS memo that mentions mail being left unattended on the floor and dock areas.
 
ChrisBFRPKY said:
Congratulations.

Who would be more likely to defy a court order? Someone with their career and retirement at risk or someone that has been promised protection at the highest level?

July 10th 2nd memo to internal USPS employees:

http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/07/31/usps0731.pdf

The interesting part in the memo:

" One aspect of these changes that may be difficult for employees is that.- temporarily we may see mail left behind or mail on the workroom floor or docks (in P&DCs), which is not typical. "

To me it is concerning. How many swing state ballots would be needed to change the results? 300K? Isn't it odd almost that exact amount was never confirmed as delivered by the USPS?
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How would anyone know how many ballots need to be withheld?

The only odd thing is how comfortable you are with your anti-Trump conspiracy theory.

All deJoy has done is aimed at helping Trump.
 
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The Great Zaganza said:
How would anyone know how many ballots need to be withheld?

The only odd thing is how comfortable you are with your anti-Trump conspiracy theory.

All deJoy has done is aimed at helping Trump.
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They wouldn't to my knowledge. They could estimate at best.

You misunderstand. I think it would have been much easier for Trump to collect ballots to keep in reserve. Most would have been for Biden true.

Exactly. And with recounts on the horizon. Fraud is not a one way street.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Given that in this election Democrats voted to a far higher degree than Republicans by mail, we can safely assume that a big majority of ballots held up by deJoy would have not have been for Trump.
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That’s what’s so dumb about all of these fraud conspiracy theories. The Dems are conspiring to remove ballots likely for their candidate.
 
The USPS did miss an Election Day deadline to sweep for ballots because it was trying to expedite deliveries of in-hand ballots. They did continue the sweeping process amidst its other, equally pressing deadlines. Things don't always get scanned to prove they were delivered. There are other ways for a mail-in voter to confirm their ballot was received and I have not heard an outcry from people whose ballots went "missing." The Postal Service was damned if they did, damned if they didn't stop delivering ballots in order to sweep facilities. Meanwhile, the Postal Service is run by a Trump appointee with a motive to sabotage delivery capabilities. Finally, late mail-in ballots probably favor Biden by a significant margin.

All of this has been explained to Chris ad nauseam but he'll keep on saying there's no direct evidence they were delivered. There is circumstantial evidence, though - hundreds of thousand of voters have not claimed their ballots disappeared. Judges have pointed out the lack of evidence in dismissing various lawsuits. I don't mind people arguing for sport of it, but IMO that's what's going on. The Trump apologists don't seem to have their hearts in it. That's entirely subjective of course and I could be wrong.

Other people have argued the same things; I did this summary for my own benefit.
 
if anyone is still thinking that there was something to the Benford Law claims, here's a great video as to why there isn't, and it includes data to show why in fact there was no detectable fraud.

 
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