Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

[eerok]

Only 67 days, folks.

Sometimes the clock is too damn slow.

The countdowns to state certification vary, but they're at least sooner.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Delivered /= scanned. You have evidence that the ballots weren't scanned. Prove that the scan rate for trackable mail is 100%. Prove that the postal service officials are lying about the ballots being expedited and therefore skipping delivery scans.

If you want to keep grasping onto incomplete tracking info, that's fine, but I think you are wasting your time. IMO, you should jump on the Dominion Voting Systems CT train. They have a sort of evil sounding name, and are related to Diebold who were subject to CT's during the Bush years. Surely, there are a few D politicians somewhere that know someone who works for Dominion.

Hahaha. Prove that Ebay package you sent was delivered when the tracking info says it wasn't........

I'll stick with verifiable facts. Fact: 300K+ ballots were not delivered by the USPS according to their tracking information. These ballots have disappeared from the system. The question should be where are they? What happened to these ballots? Having someone working inside the Postal system to collect ballots is one of the ideas I floated for stealing an election.

 

[acbytesla]

Republicans don't view gun possession the same way as progressives. I don't see anything in the article about them attempting to intimidate people attempting to vote.

You're lumping all Republicans into one group.

And it would be a lie to view a bunch of men dressed in camo and carrying guns demanding that vote counting to be stopped as not intimidating.

OTOH, you are claiming that unnamed attorneys are being intimidated by what and whom?

Classic.

 

[pzkpfw]

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This kind of 'logic' eludes me. How does carrying guns in a group of people where emotions are running high help keep the peace? That makes as much sense as thinking drinking alcohol is going to help keep the peace. In what world are men known for the trait of keeping cool and calm in these kinds of situations? What the hell do they think they're going to do with these guns? Do they think Democrats, who were winning the state, are going to attack them? They're as delusional as Trump.

And who needs guns anyway?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/politics/trump-school-shooter-florida.html

President Trump asserted Monday that he would have rushed in to save the students and teachers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from a gunman with an assault weapon, even if he was unarmed at the time of the massacre.

 

[Stacyhs]

Republicans don't view gun possession the same way as progressives. I don't see anything in the article about them attempting to intimidate people attempting to vote.

Did I say anything about attempts to intimidate people from voting? No, I did not.

 

[Stacyhs]

And who needs guns anyway?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/26/us/politics/trump-school-shooter-florida.html

Quote:
President Trump asserted Monday that he would have rushed in to save the students and teachers of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School from a gunman with an assault weapon, even if he was unarmed at the time of the massacre.

There aren't enough laughing dog cartoons in the entire universe.....

 

[trustbutverify]

Error

 

[turingtest]

Hahaha. Prove that Ebay package you sent was delivered when the tracking info says it wasn't........

Are you serious? Do you not think that whoever you sent the package to would not know whether it was delivered? And if you contacted them, they couldn't tell you that it hadn't been? Point is, the lack of a scan indicating delivery only shows it wasn't scanned, not that it wasn't delivered. And people who sent in mail-in ballots had similar ways to see if their vote was received and counted that don't depend on the USPS tracking it all that way. Your little CT here would require 300K+ ballots to be "disappeared" by someone who could rely on the voters who sent them not checking with the receivers of the ballots, the states, whose verification systems were independent of USPS tracking as to counting.

I'll stick with verifiable facts. Fact: 300K+ ballots were not delivered by the USPS according to their tracking information. These ballots have disappeared from the system. The question should be where are they? What happened to these ballots? Having someone working inside the Postal system to collect ballots is one of the ideas I floated for stealing an election.

Oh boy- yeah, and there are 9/11 CTists who float conspiracies that rely on someone "on the inside" who could change FDR flight data, "disappear" airline passengers, and the like- it's usually needful for a CTist's conspiracy to be one that, by definition, could do whatever it takes, however magical, to be a successful one. So, in addition to the objection above, that "they" would know which ballots to take so the voters wouldn't know, your "someone on the inside" would also need to know which ballots to take to be sure he was taking the right ones, i.e., Trump's and not Biden's. Unless you think he was just taking them at random and hoping for the best...

No, sorry, I think I'll stick with the verifiable facts.

 

[smartcooky]

Night of the Long Knives?

Awfulizing much?

No-one is talking about murder here! (except of course, the people you support, who have been issuing death threats to election volunteers).

 

[smartcooky]

Republicans don't view gun possession the same way as progressives. I don't see anything in the article about them attempting to intimidate people attempting to vote.

The mere presence of some random member of the public, not a sworn LEO, dressing in camo with bullet-proof vest and carrying military style firearms, would intimidate the hell out of me... and I'm a licenced gun owner!!

 

[johnny karate]

Republicans don't view gun possession the same way as progressives. I don't see anything in the article about them attempting to intimidate people attempting to vote.

To recap, giving out the names and work phone numbers of lawyers = inherent threat of violence.

Arming yourself with assault weapons outside of a ballot-counting center based on baseless conspiracy theories of election fraud = no inherent threat of violence.

 

[johnny karate]

The mere presence of some random member of the public, not a sworn LEO, dressing in camo with bullet-proof vest and carrying military style firearms, would intimidate the hell out of me... and I'm a licenced gun owner!!

Yes, but what if someone gave out your work phone number!

 

[smartcooky]

Yes, but what if someone gave out your work phone number!

Well, not a problem. My work phone number is public knowledge.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

IMO, you should jump on the Dominion Voting Systems CT train. They have a sort of evil sounding name, and are related to Diebold who were subject to CT's during the Bush years. Surely, there are a few D politicians somewhere that know someone who works for Dominion.

Shapeshifter -> Sharpieshifter

 

[smartcooky]

Oh, ok. Well, I think that's bad and anybody who makes a call like that should be arrested, but I honestly don't think there is the same fear of violence and retribution from the right wing crazies as there is from the left wing crazies. The lawyers have left the case and are shutting up, the election workers are publicly complaining about the call, continuing with the election and being backed up by republicans. Also, I thought the claim was intimidating people with guns?

Really? Never head of Dylan Roof then? Or Tim McVeigh? Brenton Tarrant? Kyle Rittenhouse? Patrick Crusius?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/right-wing-extremists-killed-38-2019-anti-defamation-league/

"The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) found that white supremacists were responsible for 81% of the extremist-related murders in the U.S. in 2019, which the group says goes along with an ongoing resurgence of white supremacy that started in 2015."

The FBI and Department of Homeland Security have faced criticism that they've been sluggish in their response to the increased risk posed by white supremacists and right-wing extremists. The FBI recently elevated its assessment of the threat to a "national threat priority" for fiscal year 2020, FBI Director Christopher Wray said at a congressional hearing this month.​

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...tack-white-supremacy-death-toll-a9364096.html

A new report shows that right-wing extremists were responsible for 330 murders in the United States in the past decade, or 76 percent of all domestic extremist-related murders in that time.​

 

[acbytesla]

Donald Trump's handpicked Director of Homeland Security says NO FRAUD.

So much for the idea of Fraud and a stolen election.

A top committee made up of officials of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency (CISA) and its election partners issued a statement refuting President Trump's claims of widespread fraud and irregularities calling the "election the most secure in US history".

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes or was in any way compromised".

 

[Childlike Empress]

IMO, you should jump on the Dominion Voting Systems CT train. They have a sort of evil sounding name, and are related to Diebold who were subject to CT's during the Bush years. Surely, there are a few D politicians somewhere that know someone who works for Dominion.

Here's a starting point:

 

[a_unique_person]

Sidney Powell is going to take us all down.

 

[Bob001]

You are mistaken. The evidence that they were not delivered is there. Without delivery confirmation there is no evidence the ballots were delivered. Each contained tracking information. Each tracking number is scanned when delivered by the carrier, I see it happen every day.
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The Postal Service has said explicitly that they stopped scanning some ballots close to Election Day to deliver them faster. That's entirely apart from the systems election authorities use to track processing of the ballots they've received. In most states voters can go on-line to be sure their ballot has been counted.

We employed extraordinary measures to deliver ballots directly to local boards of elections," said Martha Johnson, a spokeswoman for the Postal Service. "When this occurs, by design, these ballots bypass certain processing operations and do not receive a final scan. Instead, they are expedited directly to the boards of elections. We remain in close contact with state and local boards of elections, and we do not currently have any open issues."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...vered-ballots-time-amid-concern-over-n1246451

But it’s likely that these statistics seem worse than they actually are, the officials said. To quickly get ballots to election officials this week, the service bypassed its processing center in Southwest Philadelphia. Instead, employees in local post offices manually sorted and postmarked the ballot envelopes, then immediately delivered them to boards of elections the same day, according to postal officials.

However, this meant those ballots were likely scanned in, but never scanned out, since they bypassed the rest of the system. Or as the service put it, the “local turnaround” "expedites delivery, but is not captured in service performance data.”

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/p...order-philadelphia-pennsylvania-20201104.html

No state authority has claimed that any part of 300,000 ballots disappeared.

 

[MarkCorrigan]

Here's a starting point:

V. A. Shiva Ayyadurai (born Vellayappa Ayyadurai Shiva,[2] December 2, 1963)[3] is an Indian-American scientist, engineer, politician, entrepreneur, and promoter of conspiracy theories and unfounded medical claims. He is notable for his widely discredited claim to be the "inventor of email",[4] based on the electronic mail software called "EMAIL" he wrote as a New Jersey high school student in the late 1970s

Seems legit.

ETA: It gets better.

Ayyadurai also attracted attention for two reports: the first questioning the working conditions of India's largest scientific agency; the second questioning the safety of genetically modified soybeans. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Ayyadurai became known for a social media disinformation campaign about the coronavirus; spreading conspiracy theories about the cause of coronavirus; promoting unfounded COVID-19 treatments; and campaigning to fire Anthony Fauci for allegedly being a so-called "deep state" actor.


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He alleged that the coronavirus was spread by the "deep state" and accused Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, of being a "Deep State Plant". Ayyadurai called for Fauci to be fired[52] and his supporters lobbied for Fauci to be replaced by Ayyadurai.[53]

In March 2020 he published an open letter to president Donald Trump where he wrote that a national lockdown was unnecessary and advocated that large doses of vitamins could prevent and cure the disease

*chef's kiss* Perfect source for news.