Allegations of Fraud in 2020 US Election

[shuttlt]

What damage? Please be specific.

The lawyers quit. So that's one damage. I can't imagine it has no impact on the judges to see this happening. So that might be another damage. It's not like the SC has no experience with being on the wrong end of this. Maybe it won't be enough, but is targeting the legal profession going make the judges look on Trump more or less favourably? Again, I think the odds of him winning are low, but why help him? Republicans are looking at this and I don't think it will make them less likely to drop him, and unless they drop him it is hard for the Republican's in the House to drop him. More damage. Why help him?

 

[xjx388]

The lawyers quit. So that's one damage. I can't imagine it has no impact on the judges to see this happening. So that might be another damage. It's not like the SC has no experience with being on the wrong end of this. Maybe it won't be enough, but is targeting the legal profession going make the judges look on Trump more or less favourably? Again, I think the odds of him winning are low, but why help him? Republicans are looking at this and I don't think it will make them less likely to drop him, and unless they drop him it is hard for the Republican's in the House to drop him. More damage. Why help him?

You know what judges hate, even judges who were former lawyers? Frivolous lawsuits.

 

[shuttlt]

Someone ain't been payin' no mind to recent events.

I heard about it, but I haven't read up on it, so I don't know. I'm just not that worried in the macro sense about it because the Republican crazies don't seem to have the numbers that there are on the left.

 

[johnny karate]

Well, if that's what they were doing then that is terrible as well and there is some level of similarity in the nature of the terrible. People have to be allowed to vote without pressure. My feeling is that the left has a much greater level of cultural hegemony. I don't believe the right have the power to do what is being done to these lawyers. Cancel culture is overwhelmingly a tool of the left.

Unless the thing being canceled is someone’s personal safety or life.

In which case, the right politely requests that the left hold their beer.

 

[acbytesla]

Well, if that's what they were doing then that is terrible as well and there is some level of similarity in the nature of the terrible. People have to be allowed to vote without pressure. My feeling is that the left has a much greater level of cultural hegemony. I don't believe the right have the power to do what is being done to these lawyers. Cancel culture is overwhelmingly a tool of the left.

You're kidding? Right? Ever hear of the Dixie Chicks?

 

[shuttlt]

You know what judges hate, even judges who were former lawyers? Frivolous lawsuits.

Maybe, in which case take the win! If he is going to piss the judges off with a frivolous law suit, why leap in and take the judges attention off his stupidity by harassing his lawyers into quitting? It's self defeating. It's like being 100 points up with a minute to go in a basketball game and taking it into your head to violently assault the court staff when the opposition challenges the score. Why?

 

[johnny karate]

The lawyers quit. So that's one damage.

How does someone quitting their job constitute “damage”?

And how do you know these people quit over this alleged “harassment” as opposed to embarrassment at the behavior of their former employer?

 

[MarkCorrigan]

I heard about it, but I haven't read up on it, so I don't know. I'm just not that worried in the macro sense about it because the Republican crazies don't seem to have the numbers that there are on the left.

What colour is the sky on your planet?

 

[johnny karate]

Maybe, in which case take the win! If he is going to piss the judges off with a frivolous law suit, why leap in and take the judges attention off his stupidity by harassing his lawyers into quitting? It's self defeating. It's like being 100 points up with a minute to go in a basketball game and taking it into your head to violently assault the court staff when the opposition challenges the score. Why?

What judge and what lawyers are you talking about?

 

[xjx388]

I heard about it, but I haven't read up on it, so I don't know. I'm just not that worried in the macro sense about it because the Republican crazies don't seem to have the numbers that there are on the left.

According to the latest vote tallies, there are about 72 million crazies on the right.

 

[shuttlt]

Unless the thing being canceled is someone’s personal safety or life.

In which case, the right politely requests that the left hold their beer.

You need to appreciate how this looks to people who don't share your politics. Most of the country doesn't like this. This is why Trump got so many votes. It is self defeating.

 

[xjx388]

You need to appreciate how this looks to people who don't share your politics. Most of the country doesn't like this. This is why Trump got so many votes. It is self defeating.

It's also why Biden got so many votes -because the actual "most of the country" didn't like what they saw from the right.

 

[shuttlt]

What judge and what lawyers are you talking about?

Well you have the state judges handling the various cases at the moment I believe, then you have the SC which Trump will have the opportunity to go to next. I have a hard time believing that they won't view having lawyers intimidated off a case by a mob negatively. Plus any delay may serve Trump as there are deadlines to certify the results, no? "My lawyers were intimidated off the case by a mob" seems like a reasonable argument for a delay. Why help the man?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Apologies
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/twitter-lincoln-project-trump-campaign-attorneys

https://archive.is/kt8iS

The contact info was from THIER WEBSITE...

Why is this a problem ?

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Well you have the state judges handling the various cases at the moment I believe, then you have the SC which Trump will have the opportunity to go to next.

No, he won't. You are so woefully misinformed.

 

[slyjoe]

Christ on a ******* bike. The Republican observers didn't bother turning up to the walk through to find out how the count worked, then on the day they hadn't got a clue what was going on, right? So they wanted the result thrown out because they were lazy and incompetent?

Shocking but not surprising.

Dave

Same thing in Maricopa Co. AZ.

Maricopa County GOP chair resigns after skipping election equipment verification test

https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...s-skipped-election-equipment-test/6263050002/

 

[johnny karate]

You need to appreciate how this looks to people who don't share your politics. Most of the country doesn't like this. This is why Trump got so many votes. It is self defeating.

How what looks? Stating facts?

You’re here complaining about lawyers being “harassed” by some nebulous “mob” (instigated by Republican, ironically enough).

Meanwhile, actual mobs of armed right wingers threatened election officials and volunteer election workers for the crime of doing their civic duty.

You of course proclaim ignorance of this phenomenon, per the established playbook, and then continue to try to high-road us with your cynical and transparent moral posturing.

No one believes you and no one is buying the bull **** you’re shoveling.

 

[shuttlt]

It's also why Biden got so many votes -because the actual "most of the country" didn't like what they saw from the right.

You are talking about most of the electorate, not most of the country. Also, I would say a lot of it is because they didn't like Trump rather than fear of the right in general. Maybe I'm wrong?

 

[shuttlt]

How what looks? Stating facts?

You’re here complaining about lawyers being “harassed” by some nebulous “mob” (instigated by Republican, ironically enough).

Meanwhile, actual mobs of armed right wingers threatened election officials and volunteer election workers for the crime of doing their civic duty.

You of course proclaim ignorance of this phenomenon, per the established playbook, and then continue to try to high-road us with your cynical and transparent moral posturing.

No one believes you and no one is buying the bull **** you’re shoveling.

Could you share me a video of the harassment of the election officials. I haven't seen it and would be interested. Incidentally, I believe the rule on this thread is that unless you post a primary source demonstrating that the claimed thing happened, you are a liar and it never occurred. I don't really doubt that you can. Please just post it.

 

[johnny karate]

Well you have the state judges handling the various cases at the moment I believe, then you have the SC which Trump will have the opportunity to go to next. I have a hard time believing that they won't view having lawyers intimidated off a case by a mob negatively. Plus any delay may serve Trump as there are deadlines to certify the results, no? "My lawyers were intimidated off the case by a mob" seems like a reasonable argument for a delay. Why help the man?

No one cares what you “imagine” or have a “hard time believing”.

What crimes have been committed and what actual damage has been done?

Be specific and show your work.