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Trump's Coup d'état.

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Vixen said:
Key quote from that article:



According to Ballotpedia:



If you scroll down to the table of deadlines, one can see the deadline for Certification Dates are anything between now and 3 Dec 2020.


So, on or after - whichever is sooner - if there is to be a coup d'état, we can expect Trump to tweet the following:


'I WIN! THIS IS A COO! BIG PRESS CONFERENCE 11:00 FOUR SEASONS HOTEL'


This will be amusing and will generate no end of twitter memes. However, as much as Trump is portrayed as an idiot, there is also a sinister element to this, which I think insiders are taking very seriously, whilst feigning nonchalance.
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Biden is publicly taking the stance, "Of course I won and I'll be President on Jan. 20.". This is exactly the stance he should be taking. I sincerely hope that, behind the scenes, he's making sure that generals and federal law enforcement will back him up.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
You're doing the same thing as TA, assuming voters for Trump equate to being in the cult. They're not.
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Yhis.A lot of Trump voters don't like Trump, but think Biden is worse.
I think this is stupid and hopelessly wrong headed, but it's not the same as being a Cult member. They will drop Trump once he loses.
But there is a hard core that is a Personality cult. They are dangerous.
 
Crossbow said:
I am surprised that the stupid, idiotic, lying, POS Trump has not yet claimed that there is not some sort of 'Deep State Conspiracy' which made him lose the election.

After all, since Trump has claimed that he is a very "stable genius", then he is quite unable to admit the simple fact that he ever did anything that is wrong.
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Oh , that will come.
 
Encouraging news from WH correspondent Peter Alexander:
https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1326855316483485701

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AnonyMoose said:
Do you really truly honestly believe that this is just Trump throwing another hissy fit? Do you really truly honestly believe that the majority of the republican party would publicly air their fullblown support for something that amounts to nothing more than a hissy fit that has zero chance of getting anywhere?

Come on... surely you guys don't believe the GOP would be in support of something that has no means to an end?

The GOP are corrupt ********, yes, but they're not stupid corrupt ********. There's a difference.
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Smart or not, the people he's putting in are dangerously unqualified to do much of anything. Guiliani's out yelling at clouds in a parking lot, his legal team has nothing, he's putting goofballs in charge on defense.

The big problem isn't a coup, it's an outside attack while he's busy hiding who knows what.

dudalb said:
Oh , that will come.
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Yep. I mean, if it hasn't already - I rarely bothered listening to his detached nonsense when he had just been inaugurated. Anything important gets into the news, the rest of his whiny jibber jabber is pointless to worry about.
 
d4m10n said:
Fearmongers such as the Jones Day lawyer on Team Trump whom Axios has on background:
https://www.axios.com/trump-electoral-college-biden-68d94e27-ace7-4da8-9e22-af7a62fe5149.html
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You know that entire article is pure speculation, right? I mean, it's completely a hypothetical from one end to the other. Sure, it's hypothetically possible... but it's still total speculation based on an unnamed lawyer who "knows how these things work".

Just... exercise some skepticism and don't wear yourself out panicking about something that is really unlikely to occur.
 
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dudalb said:
Yhis.A lot of Trump voters don't like Trump, but think Biden is worse.
I think this is stupid and hopelessly wrong headed, but it's not the same as being a Cult member. They will drop Trump once he loses.
But there is a hard core that is a Personality cult. They are dangerous.
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No, not "Yhis"!

SG said the Trump Cult was shrinking. Do you see any evidence of this? I don't.

I'm not claiming that the votes necessarily represent the Cult of Trump, but the fact he got 10 million votes more this time than last time does NOT suggest to me that his Cult is shrinking.

Oh, but they think Biden is worse? Seriously, who is thinking this? How deluded would you have to be to think that not only is Biden worse than Trump, but after 4 years of a Trump administration, you come to that conclusion? Not only do they think Biden is so bad they would rather have Trump but 10 million more people think that than they thought about Hillary Clinton?

No, if you think the Cult is shrinking, then show your evidence. Because it looks more like a case of invasion of the bodysnatchers. People who used to be against Trump and had every reason to be against Trump are now in favour of him... Ted Cruz, despite having his wife mocked by Trump is now one of his hatchet men. Lindsey Graham, despite what he said about him at the beginning of the last administration? The Trump train convoys? He even has his own Cult of Personality network in OAN.

How is this Cult shrinking?
 
d4m10n said:
Pretty sure Axios said precisely who is plotting.
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Um, okay. Yes, they are speculating about something that Trump and his team could hypothetically try to do.

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Also, it's not hypothetical. They are quoting someone from inside the team itself.
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No, it's entirely hypothetical. The entire article is speculation about what could happen if some other thing happens if this other person does this other thing that they could possibly do.

Also, I can't find anything in that article that alleges that they're quoting from someone within Trump's team. The quotes are predominantly coming from "a lawyer" who "knows how this works". And even those quotes are hypotheticals from that lawyer.

It's given away by things like:

In this long-shot scenario, Trump and his team could try to block secretaries of state in contested states from certifying results. That could allow legislatures in those states to try to appoint new electors who favor Trump over Biden.
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The Atheist said:
(Sychophants have nothing to do with it - the question is supporters, and voters clearly support him. Do you even know what sychophant means? It seems not, because you brought the term in, and it's simply straw.)
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No, you're extrapolating here. People voting for Trump to be president doesn't in any fashion imply that those people would support him illegally hanging on to the position in opposition to a legitimate election.

That's where SG's polls come in. 70 million people voted for Trump to be president. That does not, however, suggest that all of them think he should stay president when he loses the vote. And of the 60% of Republicans who aren't saying he should step down right now, I would guess that most of those are waiting for the final counts and the challenges to be settled.

I would guess that the number of people who would support an illegal overthrow of the voting process are pretty few in number.
 
CORed said:
That is the difference between this election and 2000. In 2000, one state needed to be flipped, and the margin was less then 600 votes. Gore was right to want a recount. Where I think Gore screwed up was by trying to cherry pick precincts to recount. This undermined his credibility. Had he asked for a recount of the entire state, he would have looked less like he was trying to steal the election and still would very likely have won. In this election, it's at least three states all with margins of 10's to 100's of thousands of votes. It is unlikely in the extreme that Trump can get court rulings to flip or prevent certification in all of them (or any of them, really). I am concerned about what else he has up his sleeve. I don't think we should underestimate Trump. Though I like to refer to him as a moron or an idiot, I think he is actually fairly intelligent, though that intelligence is largely negated by ignorance and narcissism. However, he is not hampered by anything remotely resembling ethics.
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I pretty much agree with this.

Although I'm not particularly concerned about whatever else Trump has up his sleeve. I don't think he can do much other than be very very annoying. Okay, well, he could cost us all money. That's really about it though.
 
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