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Cont: 2020 Presidential Election part 3

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Meadmaker said:
What I was saying is that if Trump walks out, Pence becomes President until January 20, so Pence would be 46, and Biden 47.

Or....wait....Trump refuses to leave office, and is threatening to launch the nukes. He finds out he needs the Secretary of Defense to do that with him, but the new SecDef hasn't found his way around the White House, and gets lost. Mike Pence realizes what's going on, and has pangs of conscience. He goes to the White House guards, borrows one of their weapons, walks in and shoots the President dead in the Oval Office. Pence is now number 46. He calls Nancy Pelosi, tells her what has happened, and promises to resign if she pardons him for the murder of the President. She agrees, and throws in a Medal of Freedom in appreciation. Pelosi is President 47. Finally, January 20 rolls around, and Biden is 48.

Far fetched? Maybe.

But on the whole idea of Trump resigns before January 20, I certainly don't expect it, but it wouldn't be out of character for him. If the odds were long enough, like 20 to 1, I might take that bet.
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Does Grover Cleveland count as one president or two, in the numbering?
 
Emily's Cat said:
I don't know what you mean. Can you elaborate?
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The two Senate seata in Georgia that go into a runoff: Democrats will move heaven and hell to win them.
Republicans will, too, but the last thing they need is a Trump who feels like Republicans have stabbed him in the back: they have to keep Trump happy, so he will campaign for the R-candidates.
 
Emily's Cat said:
That's all. Nothing more. The skew toward blue for Mail votes would reasonably be observable in states where mail-in has previously been uncommon, less so in areas where it was already common.
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Nope. Trump was discouraging Republican voters from voting by mail and said many, many times this is how you do voting fraud, preparing ground for throwing these mail votes away.

So we can expect that blue skew in mail votes will appear everywhere, regardless of how long was customary to use mail votes in particular state.

Meadmaker said:
What I was saying is that if Trump walks out, Pence becomes President until January 20, so Pence would be 46, and Biden 47.

Or....wait....Trump refuses to leave office, and is threatening to launch the nukes. He finds out he needs the Secretary of Defense to do that with him, but the new SecDef hasn't found his way around the White House, and gets lost. Mike Pence realizes what's going on, and has pangs of conscience. He goes to the White House guards, borrows one of their weapons, walks in and shoots the President dead in the Oval Office. Pence is now number 46. He calls Nancy Pelosi, tells her what has happened, and promises to resign if she pardons him for the murder of the President. She agrees, and throws in a Medal of Freedom in appreciation. Pelosi is President 47. Finally, January 20 rolls around, and Biden is 48.
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Movie with this kind of scenario should exist.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The two Senate seata in Georgia that go into a runoff: Democrats will move heaven and hell to win them.
Republicans will, too, but the last thing they need is a Trump who feels like Republicans have stabbed him in the back: they have to keep Trump happy, so he will campaign for the R-candidates.
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I think McConnell might have that very runoff in mind given his statement today about POTUS' every right.
 
JoeMorgue said:
We're stuck in a loop.

The Republican cheat/break/stack/circumvent the system and when called it on go "Well that's the system, can't get mad at the system" and this means that they have successfully demonized either trying to fix the system or trying to force them to use the system honestly because they'll just play the "Well that's just a bias against us" card.
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I say we go low on this one and just flip the board over (before the other side does it) and take a dump on it and enjoy the conservative cry-tears of "I can't believe you just did that! You're such a hypocrite! You've become us! That means we won!" And then we say "but you didn't win. Conservative tears are the best tears." Of course, right now I'm currently wearing a speedo and prepared to get muddy so I would say that.
 
JoeMorgue said:
No.

And to be clear I know what irony you think I'm supposed to see.

But I noticed that people who's answer to everything is "Just ignore it" can never seem to ignore people all that well. Ignoring people is always what they want other people to do.
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I really don't care about Swoop's posts or your snarks. I've never blocked a poster. You're entitled to your position whether I like it or not. I usually hate reading Swoop's posts but I do see their value.
 
Mader Levap said:
Nope. Trump was discouraging Republican voters from voting by mail and said many, many times this is how you do voting fraud, preparing ground for throwing these mail votes away.

So we can expect that blue skew in mail votes will appear everywhere, regardless of how long was customary to use mail votes in particular state.Movie with this kind of scenario should exist.
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With the exception of Oregon where the only way to vote is by mail. There is no in-person voting at all.
 
Elagabalus said:
I say we go low on this one and just flip the board over (before the other side does it) and take a dump on it and enjoy the conservative cry-tears of "I can't believe you just did that! You're such a hypocrite! You've become us! That means we won!" And then we say "but you didn't win. Conservative tears are the best tears." Of course, right now I'm currently wearing a speedo and prepared to get muddy so I would say that.
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The problem with choosing to "go low" isn't just one how far one is willing to go morally.

Provided one has "actually accomplishes something" listed among one of our morals I find the whole "Should we go low?" moral conundrum fairly humdrum if we're being honest. The Moral High Ground has never been a place on the battlefield I'm overly obsessed with holding.

My issue is more practical and prosaic. The Left just isn't as good at the old mud slinging routine as the Right is. It's not a question of whether or not stooping to their level makes us "as bad as them." It's a question as to whether or not the fight would actually be any easier for us if we do.

I'm less than convinced it would.
 
acbytesla said:
I really don't care about Swoop's posts or your snarks. I've never blocked a poster. You're entitled to your position whether I like it or not. I usually hate reading Swoop's posts but I do see their value.
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You're missing my point by a good country mile.

I'm expected to "just ignore" Swoop's endless spamming all the time across multiple threads you can ignore the one time in 6 months I've complained about it.

Yet you aren't. Funny that.
 
Pompeo sounds like a hostage telling the press how well he's being treated by his torturers.
This is dangerous stuff and I'm not sure he believes what he's saying.
 
JoeMorgue said:
The problem with choosing to "go low" isn't just one how far one is willing to go morally.

Provided one has "actually accomplishes something" listed among one of our morals I find the whole "Should we go low?" moral conundrum fairly humdrum if we're being honest. The Moral High Ground has never been a place on the battlefield I'm overly obsessed with holding.
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Tut, tut! As a brilliant orator, moral authority, and thinker once urged us to, I think we should "be best".
 
Stacyhs said:
With the exception of Oregon where the only way to vote is by mail. There is no in-person voting at all.
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Are you sure Oregon doesn't have a mechanism where you can vote in person. Like you can here in Washington State? Which really is basically walking into County and being handed a provisional ballot.
 
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