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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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Problem is: there is no longer anyone who would independently assess the actual value of a State Gift: a Trump flunky might just let him have it all for a song.

True story: Trump visited an overseas embassy and decided to take a few pieces of art back to the WH claiming they belonged to the people, not an ambassador. Turned out they were fakes. :p
 
Just curious. Has there been a sort of self-imposed restriction from covering Trump's rants by the major media houses since the White House Press Room fiasco last night? Not seeing too many Trump PoVs on my feed today.
On the news tonight they said most networks just cut away from him during it as he went on a rant apparently
 
Me too. I wanted him to run for President. Liberal, sharp, funny.

Me three. He seemed to enjoy being a senator and certainly was doing a good job. I can only conclude that whatever lurks in his closet must be pretty damning for him to do the 180 turn that he did.
 
People vote for 'their side'. Naturally there are other reasons that adjust the fringe numbers, but this explanation accounts for the bulk of it, imo.
 
Here is how the press knows whether or not an election is hacked.

If their (usually Dem) candidate loses, the election was hacked. If he wins, it was not hacked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCqlQ5IcEE&feature=emb_logo

A little something for you to ponder...if you have the capacity that is. The press, DOES NOT decide whether an election is hacked. There are administrative mechanisms in place to ensure that hacking does not take place and also to identify and prosecute instances of such hacking.

The press can then be honest and report such identified incidents or be dishonest and spin fairy tales based on speculation and fevered fantasies.

But then, considering your history of posting, I guess you are very comfortable with the latter.
 
Just curious. Has there been a sort of self-imposed restriction from covering Trump's rants by the major media houses since the White House Press Room fiasco last night? Not seeing too many Trump PoVs on my feed today.
I believe the major TV networks only showed short clips of Trump's rant, noting over and over it was false and/or there was no evidence.

Fox News was one exception and they broadcast the full rant.
 
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A little something for you to ponder...if you have the capacity that is. The press, DOES NOT decide whether an election is hacked. There are administrative mechanisms in place to ensure that hacking does not take place and also to identify and prosecute instances of such hacking.

The press can then be honest and report such identified incidents or be dishonest and spin fairy tales based on speculation and fevered fantasies.



Am I wrong to think you tend to trust the system...?

Actually the media told us the 2016 election was hacked. Was it? A couple weeks ago, they told us "Russians" might be hacking the election again. That narrative went away. steer public perception. The fact is they spin it according to how their (Dem) candidates are doing.


I tend to lean toward "Distrusts press", rather than "Trusts press"


Did you know that it is only six or so corporations, with interlocking directors/owners (also interlocked with big pharma boards) who control what the MSM audience is led to perceive as reality?

“The media’s the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that’s power. Because they control the minds of the masses. The press is so powerful in its image-making role, it can make the criminal look like he’s a the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. This is the press, an irresponsible press. It will make the criminal look like he’s the victim and make the victim look like he’s the criminal. If you aren’t careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.”

~ Malcom X


BTW, regarding that moment recently where you thought I had noticed you were from India.... No. The reason I mentioned Yuri Bez was more mundane.
 
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It’s not the system casting doubt in the integrity of this election, it’s the loser Donald Trump.
 
Just a thought about the media coverage.

I guess all the other states are also still counting the rest of the ballots. But it isn't covered in the media because those ballots won't make any difference to the result in these states.

Wouldn't it help if the media would be showing the numbers in some of the other states too, just for comparison and to show that it is not uncommon for getting 10.000 votes here and 5000 votes there. It won't change anything in these states, but it is happening all over the country. Not just in the remaining battle states.
 
Just a thought about the media coverage.

I guess all the other states are also still counting the rest of the ballots. But it isn't covered in the media because those ballots won't make any difference to the result in these states.

Wouldn't it help if the media would be showing the numbers in some of the other states too, just for comparison and to show that it is not uncommon for getting 10.000 votes here and 5000 votes there. It won't change anything in these states, but it is happening all over the country. Not just in the remaining battle states.

Excellent point.
 
I don’t know if anyone can inspire the turnout that Trump does.

Not Cotton, that's for sure - he's still just a politician, and an IMO unappealing one at that. Can things change? Eh, maybe, or it could more easily be some half-decent governor or something.

But Dolt 45 is, in the minds of many, an ultra-successful businessman who looked out and was horrified by the swamp, and so stepped out of his golden tower to give the country back to "you...the people."

In reality, he's basically Dennis Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but people love the myth. Cotton just has nothing like that.
 
Nearly 50% of voters picked the orange idiot.

Just saying given his philosophy would it not be good to ask why?

There's a thread on that subject right here: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347744

Just curious. Has there been a sort of self-imposed restriction from covering Trump's rants by the major media houses since the White House Press Room fiasco last night? Not seeing too many Trump PoVs on my feed today.

Good - I hope I never see that fat ****'s face ever again.

Except for when he's dragged out of the WH, still crying like the baby he is.
 
Good morning.

So Biden's lead in Georgia is now 7,248. That's really big ... to be flipped by a recount.

From the states not yet called, Arizona seems the only one where, extrapolating from latest returns, Trump still has a chance.
The others: Pennsylvania, Nevada are more than likely Biden, Alaska, North Carolina more then likely Trump.
 
Well that is a cognizant point. But there are quite a few other groups that typically vote Republican and did not this year, after Trump pooped on them too.



For example in my case the rural vote which almost always votes Republican bailed in large numbers. Not completely, but enough in a few critical states to prevent re-election.



And both parties ignored Libertarians, even though they got more than enough votes to sway the election either way. I saw a great comment about that too.



You are not entitled to Libertarian votes
Are the USA libertarians really that stupid?
 
I agree. There are actually a lot of Republican politicians who would not support going to the SC to get this all overturned. They recognize that questioning the legitimacy of our elections in that way would turn us into a 3rd world republic.



It doesn't take much integrity to say, no, that's not how we do it. It takes no integrity to support it.
Also people seem to keep forgetting that in many places Trump wants to have the votes disregarded are places where republicans won their election to the house.
 
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