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2020 Presidential Election part 2

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Shaquille Brewster
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NEW: "All of the ballots have indeed been counted" Wisconsin Elections Commission Administrator Meagan Wolfe says on @NBCNews

"We're not seeing that there's any counties that haven't posted their results on their websites."

NBC News currently has Biden ahead by 20,697 votes.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
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There are also many instances of people receiving like 5 mail in ballots representing the last several owners of their house, etc.
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Prove it. Mail ballots are mailed to the current addresses of specific registered voters, not random houses. And ballots are tracked by voter; even if someone tried to return more than one, that would be flagged. This is all more Trump/Fox fantasy.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Big news... and entirely expected :( .

If Trump wins this election, it'll be through misinformation, conspiracy theories, voter surpression, and sabotage of the postal service. And lawsuits.
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... and the folks who swear by the 2nd Amendment as s way of keeping tyranny at bay and the government honest will just cheer him on.
 
No matter what happens, I'm not sitting up tonight, too. The result will be the same tomorrow, regardless of whether I'm watching or trying to catch some shut-eye.
 
Horatius said:
I think it's because a lot of people started to think that if Biden could flip a few places like Texas and Georgia, that meant they could flip the Senate as well.

But now we're in a place where the best case scenario of a Biden win means we're still stuck with a GOP Senate dominated by Moscow Mitch, which means, best case scenario, is another 4 years of GOP obstructionism, as we saw with Obama.

So absolutely nothing is going to get done, even in the best case scenario. And we're still going to be stuck with 4 years of Trumpian Whining about a "stolen election".

And that's our best case scenario today.
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Absolutely true!

GOP will try anything to make Biden's term look as bad as they can.
People will be sick of unable Sleepy Joy, getting nothing done.
And Ivanka/Jared will be next POTUS after 4 years.
 
Skeptic Tank said:
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I walked in and voted this year and was required to present precisely zero evidence of who I was, like every year before. That is incredibly stupid.
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Did you present ID when you registered? After than, you are on the list. That's enough. There is absolutely no evidence than anybody is risking a felony conviction to vote in anybody else's name. And you may have noted that the states that have imposed ID requirements defined acceptable IDs narrowly, and at the same time made it harder to get them. Voter suppression, pure and simple.
 
Horatius said:
I think it's because a lot of people started to think that if Biden could flip a few places like Texas and Georgia, that meant they could flip the Senate as well.

But now we're in a place where the best case scenario of a Biden win means we're still stuck with a GOP Senate dominated by Moscow Mitch, which means, best case scenario, is another 4 years of GOP obstructionism, as we saw with Obama.
So absolutely nothing is going to get done, even in the best case scenario. And we're still going to be stuck with 4 years of Trumpian Whining about a "stolen election".

And that's our best case scenario today.
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Yup. Over the last few years the party of "Constitutional originalism" (GOP) has managed to hijack the "checks and balances" framework set up in the Constitution to make something of it that it was never originally meant to be. Several GOP senators specifically used that terminology- "checks and balances"- to frame their obstructionism based on party as justified by a Constitution that has no provision, never even mentions, political parties as any part of the mechanics of government. The rise of political parties was probably inevitable; but I seriously doubt that a framework that was set up only to keep one branch of a functioning government from intruding in the province of another was really meant to justify one party completely blocking another's use of a branch they'd won control of, resulting in government not functioning at all.
 
trump is whining that Biden votes are appearing in counties and states.

They are finding Biden votes all over the place — in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. So bad for our Country!
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As the Guardian's live text editor snarked
In a US election, it is the regular custom to continue counting until every legally cast ballot is tallied.
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BobTheCoward said:
The short answer is people have put out calculated estimates for people disenfranchised by voter ID laws and you have, "what if."
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I'm really starting to like you, Bob. That is exactly right; ST's evidence for voter fraud in any amount realistically needed to affect the results amount to "what needs to happen," not "what did." And that's all it ever will be.
 
dudalb said:
I hope Biden winds, but I am now convinced the US has had it as a nation. We are just too far apart in way we view things.
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When someone puzzles how America became so divided, a simple answer is "Divide and conquer is the oldest strategy"

Another answer is ideological subversion, stage 3.9


If you haven't, I suggest you listen to Yuri Bezmenov.
 
carlosy said:
Absolutely true!

GOP will try anything to make Biden's term look as bad as they can.
People will be sick of unable Sleepy Joy, getting nothing done.
And Ivanka/Jared will be next POTUS after 4 years.
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Sorry, they're about as charismatic as a bag of rocks.
 
Ambrosia said:
Well I was wrong about a blue landslide :(
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Its the media that led you astray. They no longer practice journalism. They are political activists.

It is easy to see in times like this, just as it was in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020
 
Bubba said:
When someone puzzles how America became so divided, a simple answer is "Divide and conquer is the oldest strategy"

Another answer is ideological subversion, stage 3.9


If you haven't, I suggest you listen to Yuri Bezmenov.
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And Ivan Pavlov with his dog whistle.
 
Remember, if Trump loses and has to leave office, he will a. be broke after a short time, and b. face lawsuits and criminal charges.

Even if he survives that, his mind might be so addled in four years that he'll be unable to even think of running for office.

I know this looks really, really dark. I'm deeply worried myself. To be honest, I'm a mess. But it's not over 'till it's over. America is not yet lost.
 
Bob001 said:
Did you present ID when you registered? After than, you are on the list. That's enough. There is absolutely no evidence than anybody is risking a felony conviction to vote in anybody else's name. And you may have noted that the states that have imposed ID requirements defined acceptable IDs narrowly, and at the same time made it harder to get them. Voter suppression, pure and simple.
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I'm confused. So you do have to show some kind of ID when you show up to vote? If so, I don't see the problem either. Just show them your driver's license or your credit card or something.

If anyone could literally just walk in, look at the list of names, point at some random name and go, "oh yeah, Lucas Smith, that's me" without proving in any way that they really were that person, then I agree that would be weird, but surely that can't be the case?
 
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