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2020 Presidential Election

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Just what you'd expect from Trump supporters, trying to run a Biden bus off the road. Their kind just don't share our values. If you vote for Trump, you're not really an American.
 
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Our numbers are looking VERY good all over. Sleepy Joe is already beginning to pull out of certain states. The Radical Left is going down!

People have long been voting but Joe Biden has still not released his Supreme Court List of Radical Left Judges that he would like to put on the Court. Also, is he going to Court Pack? He thinks he can bluff his way through these two important questions. Can only vote against!!!
 
Trump Tweets

When I originally became your all time favorite President, the Great State of Michigan was hemorrhaging car companies and jobs. Plants were closing and moving to Mexico, and other places. No new plants for decades. I stopped the moves, & now many plants are and have been built...

...The place was a mess and would have lost much more business if I hadn’t come along. Many new plants are starting. Foreign countries and companies now treat the USA, and Michigan, with respect. Big jobs plans. Please remember this when you go to cast your very important vote!
 
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Craig4 said:
Just what you'd expect from Trump supporters, trying to run a Biden bus off the road. Their kind just don't share our values. If you vote for Trump, you're not really an American.
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"Cancel Culture" is an abomination, but "Run Off The Road Culture" is just good fun!!
 
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Joe Concha
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Trump now ahead in Arizona in the RCP index of polls. 2 weeks ago, Biden was leading by an avg of 4. If Trump takes FL, NC, AZ, OH, he basically has to take PA or MI to win (given Georgia doesn’t flip, which hasn’t since ‘92 when Clinton won with just 43%)
 
Darat said:
Is Obama really the best the Democrats can wheel out give the many controversies that dogged his terms of POTUS? I'm sure people haven't forgotten that he wore a tan suit and a soldier held an umbrella for him!
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Don't forget when he failed to return a salute! The GOP damn near had strokes over that one.
 
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Biden wants to LOCKDOWN our Country, maybe for years. Crazy! There will be NO LOCKDOWNS. The great American Comeback is underway!!!

Joe Biden called Black Youth SUPER PREDATORS. They will NEVER like him, or vote for him. They are voting for “TRUMP”.
 
Looking at fivethirtyeight, both the national polls and President Trump's approval hap have closed by a couple of points.

Much closer and they'll be getting to within the margin of error :o
 
angrysoba said:
Trump will want to cling on to the death, but where is the incentive for the GOP to do so as a whole? There isn’t any.
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There is.

At the moment, the Republican Party is staring at a quickly arriving future where they're likely to be crushed for at least a generation. The composition of the party has also become far, far more authoritarian, with the consequences of that being rather evident.

Captain_Swoop said:
Is there one republican who has said "of course we should count all votes."?
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I can pretty safely say that yes, quite a few registered Republicans have expressed that sentiment. The problem is that far too many Republicans with political power don't believe that at all.

Captain_Swoop said:
“It’s ordinary Americans just taking this election into their own hands” — Jeanine Pirro on Fox praises Trump fans harassing the bus.
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That and Trump's celebration of it are both further signs of the GOP's increasingly swift descent into fascism.

Lurch said:
Do the voters, who voted in good faith and through no fault of their own, not get another kick at the can, if done in time? Or does one ever get only one chance to vote?
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Generally, they should be able to, but the exact rules vary state by state, I think.

Lurch said:
If an 'administration error' is all it takes to render null so many votes which can never be re-cast, well, that's effed up.
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It would hardly be the first time 'administration error' has rendered large number of votes null, though, in various ways, or worse. And yes, it's effed up every time it happens.
 
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In the 538 model, the probability for Biden winning were 90% this morning.

An hour ago, Biden had tumbled to a tiny 89% probability.
Now he's back at 90%

For comparison, in 2016, 2 days before Election day, Clinton's probability to win in the 538 model was 64.9%. (It would rise to 71.4% on Election day.)
 
Firestone said:
In the 538 model, the probability for Biden winning were 90% this morning.

An hour ago, Biden had tumbled to a tiny 89% probability.
Now he's back at 90%

For comparison, in 2016, 2 days before Election day, Clinton's probability to win in the 538 model was 64.9%. (It would rise to 71.4% on Election day.)
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At this point I feel that Biden will win the popular vote and the EC, but the Elephant in the room is will Trump and his supporters accept such a result? Trump has accused Biden of everything bar being Satan himself and the gun toting yahoo's among his supporters actually seem to believe his garbage.
 
acbytesla said:
I don't think Craig is right. But hey, he might be. I'm pretty sure rural areas in the US tend to have votes reported quicker. But nothing in the US is universal because each location has very different methods, laws and resources on how the do this. Alabama is very different than Maine etc.
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It's too complicated in the US to make generalizations. In addition to each state (and local areas within a state) having different rules and resources, the US spans multiple time zones and even some states have multiple time zones. For example, polls in the more rural panhandle of Florida close an hour later than the polls in the more urban eastern part of the state.
 
The Don said:
Looking at fivethirtyeight, both the national polls and President Trump's approval hap have closed by a couple of points.

Much closer and they'll be getting to within the margin of error :o
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His approval numbers are "improving" because a lot of republican leaning pollsters (think those adjusting their figures by 50 percentage points plus in his favour) have snuck into the list over the last few days "unskewing" the polls.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Joe Biden called Black Youth SUPER PREDATORS. They will NEVER like him, or vote for him. They are voting for “TRUMP”.
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Actually, it was Hillary Clinton who said this of some gang members (and if you knew how some of these gangs operated back in the 90s, and even now, you'd likely agree). But Dolt 45 likes running against random dems or independents instead of running against Biden, so whatever.

...actually, this reminds me of when she said that some Dolt 45 supporters were deplorable, and all his deplorable supporters added "deplorable" to their names and descriptions and started spewing bigoted nonsense.
 
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