2020 Presidential Election

[timhau]

Sasse, Bacon are also favored to win in Nebraska

Trump certainly wouldn't campaign for Sasse, but maybe he is going for a shutout in Nebraska.

 

[Delvo]

Do they really not have any qualified conservative judges they could have appointed? Really?

As wildly conservative as they want? Probably not. Education tends to either diminish conservativeness or weed out those who refuse to learn, and conservative voters tend to view education & intelligence and even restraint negatively, so the better you know a subject like law and stick to professional standards & such, the less like them you are.

Good let's hope that the old fogeys they frog-march to their rallies and then leave stranded become disillusioned enough to realize how little Trump gives a **** about them.

There has to be at least a few people in that crowd who are re-thinking their vote. Every time he pulls a stunt like this, it hurts him.

They're aware of the fact that bus arrangements are handled by someone else, not Trump himself.

 

[Beelzebuddy]

Good let's hope that the old fogeys they frog-march to their rallies and then leave stranded become disillusioned enough to realize how little Trump gives a **** about them.

By the way,

In other news, Trump is now down to 11% chance of re-election acccording to FiveThirtyEight.

I think this is the lowest he has fallen and it comes after about three weeks hovering at 12-13%

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump supporters in Beverly Hills threaten people if they don't vote for Trump

“Your mother loves Trump – I asked her. We got your plates – we got you,”
The man walks to the front of the car, points, and returns to the passenger window.
“We got your plates baby. We know who you are now. You’re going to vote for Trump whether you like it or not. You got no choice!

(video in link)

”https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1321410610404483072

 

[JoeMorgue]

[qimg]https://i.imgur.com/HRin4D4.jpg[/qimg]

Again we're all aware of 2016. I've been telling people not to forget that it happened as much as anyone.

But Trump had already started his eleventh hour surge and polls were rapidly narrowing at this point in 2016 and his sad version of the Comey Letter this time seems to only be able to make his most fervent cult members achieve a half chubby at best.

Yes nothing is certain. Yes the blue wall still isn't as strong as I wish it was and the swing states are gonna swing. Yes ~9 in 10 is not a sure thing. But it does seem like we are at least not "a couple of thousand people in 3 counties" away from a Trump victory like we were last year.

 

[jerrywayne]

This is a lie that is easily exposed by searching "The Dixiecrats" and counting how many switched to the Republican party VS how many remained a Democrat. Now if you wish to create a topic for debate please do so but as this is off topic for this thread I cannot respond further here as I have no wish to hijack the thread from the 2020 election.

So "Southern White Democrats were conservatives and right-wingers" is a "lie"? Prove it.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump at his super spreader event in Omaha, NE: "We will vanquish the vaccine"

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1321264058784489472

That whole Twitter column is full of sickening Trump things.

NEW: Previously un-released documents show the government has paid $2.5 million to @realdonaldtrump's businesses. Far more than we knew.

Trump Org charged $7,700 for a dinner, $6,000 for floral arrangements…and $3 for POTUS’s own glass of water.

Days it took the GOP to confirm Amy Coney Barrett: 30

Days it took them to pass a $1,900,000,000,000 tax cut for the super-rich: 51

Days since they let expanded unemployment benefits expire for millions of Americans: 88 and counting

Their priorities are crystal clear.

Republican Voters Against Trump
NEW AD: Trump Administration Officials for Biden.

Never before have high-ranking staffers of an incumbent president opposed his reelection and endorsed his opponent. Heed their warning.

 

[JoeMorgue]

Trump supporters in Beverly Hills threaten people if they don't vote for Trump

“Your mother loves Trump – I asked her. We got your plates – we got you,”
The man walks to the front of the car, points, and returns to the passenger window.
“We got your plates baby. We know who you are now. You’re going to vote for Trump whether you like it or not. You got no choice!

(video in link)

”https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1321410610404483072

Totally normal behavior. Stop being dramatic. Whattabout (insert something a Democrat did some time.) Why won't you have a civil debate with me about the right to threaten other voters? Hey look over there a squirrel. You are only "anti-threatening voters" because you want your side to win, so you are biased.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Trump Tweets

Incredible evening, incredible people. Love Nebraska, and there were plenty of great people from Iowa there also! $28 Billion for Farmers!!!

 

[The Don]

Totally normal behavior. Stop being dramatic. Whattabout (insert something a Democrat did some time.) Why won't you have a civil debate with me about the right to threaten other voters? Hey look over there a squirrel. You are only "anti-threatening voters" because you want your side to win, so you are biased.

Also, it's one bad apple, in no way typical of the party at large.

 

[Horatius]

Also, it's one bad apple, in no way typical of the party at large.

We're down to just one or a few corrupt supporters coming in from Iowa. Just wait, in a few weeks, they'll be gone, it will be like a miracle!

 

[jerrywayne]

"It was fairly obvious back in July that President Trump was hoping to whip up enough of a fog around the validity of mail-in ballots that he could call for them to be rejected. The rationale for doing so was similarly obvious: Those votes were likely to favor former vice president Joe Biden, given that Democrats were much more likely to indicate that they planned to vote by mail. It’s a strategy as uncomplicated as it is undemocratic: create a false sense of alarm and then leverage that alarm to toss the votes."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...mitting-voter-fraud/ar-BB1atwM9?ocid=msedgdhp

 

[The Don]

"It was fairly obvious back in July that President Trump was hoping to whip up enough of a fog around the validity of mail-in ballots that he could call for them to be rejected. The rationale for doing so was similarly obvious: Those votes were likely to favor former vice president Joe Biden, given that Democrats were much more likely to indicate that they planned to vote by mail. It’s a strategy as uncomplicated as it is undemocratic: create a false sense of alarm and then leverage that alarm to toss the votes."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...mitting-voter-fraud/ar-BB1atwM9?ocid=msedgdhp

.....and now he's got the SCOTUS votes to see it over the line.

With his "you can change your vote" statement, maybe he's going after early votes as well which appear to be favouring the Democrats significantly. Maybe his intent is to only have on the day votes counted in the swing states.

 

[quadraginta]

I think there is also something about being in a mob that "allows" people to do things they wouldn't normally do, and think things they normally wouldn't think.

I'm pretty sure they normally think them. They just don't feel at liberty to express them when they aren't surrounded by kindred souls.

This is at the core of the point that Trump is not the problem, but only a symptom.

 

[quadraginta]

This is Nebraska. Trump is predicted to take the state by a margin of 15+ points.

Well, if he keeps chipping away at it like he has been, that may not be enough.

I wonder how many more of his supporters he can put in the hospital between now and next Tuesday.

 

[quadraginta]

Do they really not have any qualified conservative judges they could have appointed? Really?

As wildly conservative as they want? Probably not. Education tends to either diminish conservativeness or weed out those who refuse to learn, and conservative voters tend to view education & intelligence and even restraint negatively, so the better you know a subject like law and stick to professional standards & such, the less like them you are.

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After getting burned by things like Earl Warren on Brown and by Warren Burger on Roe, the wingnut faction of the conservative right has never felt safe with someone who was just solidly conservative. Anything resembling integrity or principles are a definite deal-breaker for their SCOTUS picks. And, as you point out, education and professionalism are suspicious character traits as well.

It's almost surprising that they tolerate candidates with law degrees.

 

[Craig4]

.....and now he's got the SCOTUS votes to see it over the line.

With his "you can change your vote" statement, maybe he's going after early votes as well which appear to be favouring the Democrats significantly. Maybe his intent is to only have on the day votes counted in the swing states.

Except for Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, he can't. Florida counts the early votes before the election. Florida's counting will start this weekend. Wisconsin and Pennsylvania can start counting the day of the election but before polls close. Even in Texas, early votes are counted before the election. If he calls for votes to not be counted after midnight on 4 November, it will be his votes not being tallied. Everywhere there is early voting, it favors Biden.

 

[Meadmaker]

When it comes to the presidential election, there's one thing that still has me nervous.

Last year at this time I was all set to anoint Hillary Clinton as president. Then, in the weekend before the election, I noticed something. Michigan was crawling with politicians. Hillary didn't show up, but Bill Clinton did. Trump was here. I can't remember who else, but several high-profile surrogates were beating the bushes in Michigan.

This made me nervous, because Michigan was not supposed to be a swing state. Really, in an election where the Democrat is cruising to victory, Michigan shouldn't be "in play". What were all these politicians doing in Michigan? Shouldn't they be in Ohio, or Virginia?

Well, Michigan is getting a lot of attention right now. Somebody is pretty sure that Michigan is not in the bag for Biden, and if Michigan is not in the bag, I don't see how Georgia or Texas is in play.

Of course, this is a weird year. Lots of things have happened that might shake up standard voting profiles, but for my part I won't breath easy until I see Michigan go blue on the map on election night.....or the Saturday after.

 

[angrysoba]

When it comes to the presidential election, there's one thing that still has me nervous.

Last yearelection at this time I was all set to anoint Hillary Clinton as president. Then, in the weekend before the election, I noticed something. Michigan was crawling with politicians. Hillary didn't show up, but Bill Clinton did. Trump was here. I can't remember who else, but several high-profile surrogates were beating the bushes in Michigan.

This made me nervous, because Michigan was not supposed to be a swing state. Really, in an election where the Democrat is cruising to victory, Michigan shouldn't be "in play". What were all these politicians doing in Michigan? Shouldn't they be in Ohio, or Virginia?

Well, Michigan is getting a lot of attention right now. Somebody is pretty sure that Michigan is not in the bag for Biden, and if Michigan is not in the bag, I don't see how Georgia or Texas is in play.
Of course, this is a weird year. Lots of things have happened that might shake up standard voting profiles, but for my part I won't breath easy until I see Michigan go blue on the map on election night.....or the Saturday after.

Yeah, but...what?!?

Couldn't a Trump supporter equally say, "Well, if Georgia and Texas are in play, how can Michigan be in play?"

It goes both ways. Both camps are trying to win what they can. It makes sense for Biden to campaign in Georgia and Texas. They are big prizes obviously. It makes sense for Trump to campaign in Michigan and Wisconsin.

 

[JoeMorgue]

3 counties in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania lost the election list time. There's no need for some nefarious moneyball reason the Dems are giving them a little attention this time.

You gonna check the tire that's already had 3 flats a little extra when you put air in your tires. It's not that complicated.