Bill Barr and his October Surprise

Foggy of the Fogbow said:
Oh no, it makes perfect sense that he would fill a hard drive on an expensive Apple laptop with incriminating information, and then fly 3,000 miles to give it to a blind Trump supporter and then just never come back for it.

That's the kind of thing I do all the time. Don't you? :thumbsup:

The really stupid thing was the Russians using Giuliani for the fake smear. Didn't they understand how disreputable he's become? He's nothing but a blabbering, blubbering bobblehead now, that poor bunny. :D
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I wonder if Giuliani caved and paid the $5 mil they were asking for for this info last year, or if the Ruskies caved and just gave it to him to try to stick a monkey wrench in the spokes this year. Either way, Giuliani looks like a fool for running with this, and the useful idiots who've been trying to carry the water for him on this board and other places look...not useful anyway.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
I edited the post to say I just saw it because it hadn't popped up till then. You saying I'm ignoring is quite the cheap shot.
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Oh I see we've reached the "Beffudled old man who can't keep up with the discussion and is going to try and make the discussion stop and 'reset' over and over" part of the trolling argumentative rulebook.
 
What's amazing to me is that this was supposed to be their big, deadly October Surprise that was supposed to totally detonate the Biden campaign.

And it fell apart instantly. None of the mainstream media outlets fell for it, and I've seen in several places that if you didn't pay close attention to polly ticks and knew about it already, what Trump said in the Thursday night debate would have been incomprehensible.

The whole thing is just so incredibly stupid. Shockingly stupid. I keep waiting for the REAL October Surprise, but it appears this was it. 'Course, I still suspect he's going to try to have Biden arrested sometime in the next 9 days ... but maybe Barr has told him that's too over-the-top corrupt, even for Barr.

But I've said all along, Trump's only saving grace is that he's too stupid, lazy, and incompetent, or he would have caused a lot more damage to this great land of ours than he has managed to do. Granted, he's done a ton of damage. He's done everything he could think of to hurt this great nation, as long as it didn't involve a lot of work. It's going to take years to recover from this kakocracy.

But I'm very thankful that he's so dumb and so incapable. It could have been a lot worse!
 
JoeMorgue said:
Oh I see we've reached the "Beffudled old man who can't keep up with the discussion and is going to try and make the discussion stop and 'reset' over and over" part of the trolling argumentative rulebook.
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That's unfair. There's insufficient evidence to conclude sex or age.
 
wareyin said:
I wonder if Giuliani caved and paid the $5 mil they were asking for for this info last year, or if the Ruskies caved and just gave it to him to try to stick a monkey wrench in the spokes this year. Either way, Giuliani looks like a fool for running with this, and the useful idiots who've been trying to carry the water for him on this board and other places look...not useful anyway.
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I imagine he paid significantly more for it, having turned it down at first and came crawling back once all the other scandals failed to manifest.
 
llwyd said:
Are you claiming that no hooker did? Hmm - the problem is that I won't read trash media - as a conventional guy I wan't my confirmation from a journalistic outfit. Anyway, from social media I just got the idea that while Hunter and Joe were making that meth deal with the cartels that there was an altercation and in the confusion a prostitute got shot? But you are now telling me that this is not true??
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And notice neither Biden nor his son have denied this happened!
 
Seems that the spiders have added a few more documents to pics one added just now that says it was added 4 days ago. They seem to be from millennium mirror which seems to be a Facebook page. Let me look at them. Looks like a invoice for 3 MacBook's for 85 bucks which is the price to retrieve data from one MacBook. The story does not add up. Why does he have 3 MacBook's anyway. Possibly they were stolen by agents of Trump and then sent to Moscow for analysis because he considers them to be more reliable then Americans because Americans are stupid. They were then delivered to Russian asset and then to Trump. Could all be true. Let me pursue this rabbit hole a bit further. I did hit a dead end but, To be fair to Rudy, People are really that that stupid to send in their stuff with child porn and etc. in. Usually nothing happens to them these days which is disgusting. Of course nothing happens to them because it is not reported. If this guy had really Turned in a laptop with child porn on it and it was linked to Hunter. Hunter would probably be already in jail. Signature looks fake I just looked at emails that are using Hunter's iCloud account I don't know, I have never used my iCloud account for anything and it seems unlikely that a business concern would use iCloud to conduct business. More likely that is the Hunter's email that is going could have been hacked. I wouldn't be surprised if it was found on certain banned gaming accounts as well because that is what hackers do. Pretty sure iCloud emails can not be used as evidence in my mind at any rate.
 
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If there was anything here beyond nothingburger special sauce it woulda been dumped a while back. Before early voting got underway. This is just a last-minute hail Mary to sow enough doubt to dull enthusiasm among voting-day Biden supporters. The hope was to not have the smear completely debunked too soon, hence the comparative delay. Looks like the fools jumped the gun nonetheless. Amateurish incompetence and impatience add no luster to scumbaggery.

Even if all this was all true, times ten, Biden would still be far less awful for the country than Dumpy.
 
In my opinion, it is not Russian disinfo op. Why? Because it bears hallmark of usual Trump omniincompetence. He and his cronies screw up their October surprise as readily as anything else they touch.
And I think Putin's Russia is more competent than that.

Only possibility for actual Russian op like that would be deliberately making this op such nonsensical, full of plotholes disaster, but I can't see reason for doing that.
 
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Foggy of the Fogbow said:
What's amazing to me is that this was supposed to be their big, deadly October Surprise that was supposed to totally detonate the Biden campaign.
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No, this is just a smoke screen. The real October surprise is coming this week. It will come out of left field and be so shocking it will take your breath away. Sleepy Joe will definitely be arrested for the Crime of the Century, and you libs won't have time to react.

Since it's a secret I can't tell you what it is, but here's a hint...

A notoriously secretive government agency just paid a record $114 million to an anonymous whistleblower
...and provided "extraordinary" assistance in an investigation, the agency announced Thursday. "These whistleblower tips have a huge impact... It's a gamechanger"

"It's incredibly serious," Norberg said
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Mader Levap said:
In my opinion, it is not Russian disinfo op. Why? Because it bears hallmark of usual Trump omniincompetence. He and his cronies screw up their October surprise as readily as anything else they touch.
And I think Putin's Russia is more competent than that.

Only possibility for actual Russian op like that would be deliberately making this op such nonsensical, full of plotholes disaster, but I can't see reason for doing that.
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I think that Russia's plan was probably more competent, taking real untouched emails and mixing them with real emails with some fake info mixed in and some completely fake emails like they like to do. But they didn't plan for Giuliani and the right wing news bubble's sheer bumbling idiocy.

Further, sowing doubt and discord still furthers Russian goals. Even a loss in influencing the election still counts as a win if the Bogatives and TBDS's of America still harbor a grudge and are still receptive to Russian manipulation.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
No, this is just a smoke screen. The real October surprise is coming this week. It will come out of left field and be so shocking it will take your breath away. Sleepy Joe will definitely be arrested for the Crime of the Century, and you libs won't have time to react.

Since it's a secret I can't tell you what it is, but here's a hint...

A notoriously secretive government agency just paid a record $114 million to an anonymous whistleblower
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The SEC paying someone $114M should be a scandal all on its own
 
dirtywick said:
The SEC paying someone $114M should be a scandal all on its own
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Under some government laws, whistleblowers can be entitled to a percentage of money recovered/saved/paid in penalties. On Wall Street, I'd imagine those numbers can get huge.

In other words, probably not a scandal.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
How do you know the highlighted part?
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Um, that's the heart of this silly conspiracy theory...:boggled:

FYI, there's an Apple Store less than 6 miles from Joe Biden's home. A real live Apple store that does certified Macbook repairs. Took me all of 10 seconds on Google to find it. There are two more within 10 miles in another direction. And yet, amazingly, "Hunter Biden" ignored all of those and sought out some second-rate dinky little place up a holler with a "blind" owner to leave these incriminating units at...according to Rudi. Then forgot to go back and get them...according to Rudi.

This all sounds absolutely legit. :rolleyes:
 
Mader Levap said:
In my opinion, it is not Russian disinfo op. Why? Because it bears hallmark of usual Trump omniincompetence. He and his cronies screw up their October surprise as readily as anything else they touch.
And I think Putin's Russia is more competent than that.

Only possibility for actual Russian op like that would be deliberately making this op such nonsensical, full of plotholes disaster, but I can't see reason for doing that.
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I suspect this is aimed not at Hunter or Joe but at Trump. Rudi has been the stupid messenger only.

And the message to Trump is: Here's a sample of the sort of kompromat we can make public about Hunter Biden, through your moronic sidekick Giuliani. You KNOW we have lots of kompromat on you too. Tons of it, all of it far more compromising than this. Maybe a dozen Macbooks full of it. So remember who your special friend is and what he has asked you to do. Or he will make Rudi an offer he can't refuse... OK? Just so we understand each other...*pats Donny's cheek*
 
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The New York Times reveals that there was a plan and Rudy wasn't supposed to be part of it.
By early October, even people inside the White House believed President Trump’s re-election campaign needed a desperate rescue mission. So three men allied with the president gathered at a house in McLean, Va., to launch one.

The host was Arthur Schwartz, a New York public relations man close to President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Jr. The guests were a White House lawyer, Eric Herschmann, and a former deputy White House counsel, Stefan Passantino, according to two people familiar with the meeting.

Mr. Herschmann knew the subject matter they were there to discuss. He had represented Mr. Trump during the impeachment trial early this year, and he tried to deflect allegations against the president in part by pointing to Hunter Biden’s work in Ukraine. More recently, he has been working on the White House payroll with a hazy portfolio, listed as “a senior adviser to the president,” and remains close to Jared Kushner.

The three had pinned their hopes for re-electing the president on a fourth guest, a straight-shooting Wall Street Journal White House reporter named Michael Bender. They delivered the goods to him there: a cache of emails detailing Hunter Biden’s business activities, and, on speaker phone, a former business partner of Hunter Biden’s named Tony Bobulinski. Mr. Bobulinski was willing to go on the record in The Journal with an explosive claim: that Joe Biden, the former vice president, had been aware of, and profited from, his son’s activities. The Trump team left believing that The Journal would blow the thing open and their excitement was conveyed to the president.
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Bottom line: Rudy jumped the gun and The Wall Street Journal didn't think there was enough evidence to prove that Joe Biden was involved in anything illegal.
 
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