Bill Barr and his October Surprise

Re: was it Hunter Biden's laptop, but got stolen then "turned in" to the shop...
Yeah no.



Why make up a convoluted story about a laptop that either doesn't exist or has absolutely no connection to Hunter Biden?
I think some people might be thinking part (but not all) of the data on the laptop might be real, and are trying to figure out how that might have gotten there, given all of the bizarre plot twists. A stolen laptop might explain that.

That is of course any of the data does turn out to be valid.



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Where is a single shred of evidence there was ever a Hunter Biden laptop involved in this at all ?????????
Because it sounds like the kind of miscellaneous crap that someone would keep on a laptop.

The thank-you note quoted is so weak as evidence of corruption that I believe it's genuine. That doesn't speak to the rest of the contents.
 
One of the China email recipients has issued a statement claiming the email is real and not made up by the Russians.


My name is Tony Bobulinski. The facts set forth below are true and accurate; they are not any form of domestic or foreign disinformation. Any suggestion to the contrary is false and offensive. I am the recipient of the email published seven days ago by the New York Post which showed a copy to Hunter Biden and Rob Walker. That email is genuine.



I am the CEO of Sinohawk Holdings which was a partnership between the Chinese operating through CEFC/Chairman Ye and the Biden family. I was brought into the company to be the CEO by James Gilliar and Hunter Biden. The reference to “the Big Guy” in the much publicized May 13, 2017 email is in fact a reference to Joe Biden. The other “JB” referenced in that email is Jim Biden, Joe’s brother.

Hunter Biden called his dad ‘the Big Guy’ or ‘my Chairman,’ and frequently referenced asking him for his sign-off or advice on various potential deals that we were discussing. I’ve seen Vice President Biden saying he never talked to Hunter about his business. I’ve seen firsthand that that’s not true, because it wasn’t just Hunter’s business, they said they were putting the Biden family name and its legacy on the line.

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Bobulinski sounds kind of Russian to me, he must be an agent of Russia. ******* Putin!
 
Because it sounds like the kind of miscellaneous crap that someone would keep on a laptop.

The thank-you note quoted is so weak as evidence of corruption that I believe it's genuine. That doesn't speak to the rest of the contents.

I suspect that the email about the meeting is real. I think whoever Giuliani is working with (likely Russian agents) somehow got a hold of some of Hunter Biden's emails. That particular email is nothing at all, but it is the hook they are trying to use to convince people that all the other crap is also real. They could have gotten some of Hunter's emails in a variety of ways, with a stolen laptop being a pretty likely one. I don't buy the "He brought the computer in for repair on the opposite coast from where he lives and never bothered to pick it up" story at all. It just doesn't make sense at all, that he would have the repair done in Delaware instead of California (even though Dad does live there), that he would take it to some strip mall mom and pop store, or that he wouldn't pick it up is not the least bit plausible. I suspect that all the pedophilia and child porn allegations are made up out of whole cloth.
 
Re: was it Hunter Biden's laptop, but got stolen then "turned in" to the shop...

I think some people might be thinking part (but not all) of the data on the laptop might be real, and are trying to figure out how that might have gotten there, given all of the bizarre plot twists. A stolen laptop might explain that.

That is of course any of the data does turn out to be valid...
I get that. My question is why?

What possible evidence are believers acting on? At this point in time the evidence overwhelmingly supports the conclusion this is made up crap!
You can always change that conclusion if any actual evidence surfaces. Until then, this is made up crap!
 
One of the China email recipients has issued a statement claiming the email is real and not made up by the Russians.




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Bobulinski sounds kind of Russian to me, he must be an agent of Russia. ******* Putin!

No, but it sounds sketchy as ****. What's with the lower case "i" in your avatar?
 
I suspect that the email about the meeting is real. I think whoever Giuliani is working with (likely Russian agents) somehow got a hold of some of Hunter Biden's emails. That particular email is nothing at all, but it is the hook they are trying to use to convince people that all the other crap is also real. They could have gotten some of Hunter's emails in a variety of ways, with a stolen laptop being a pretty likely one. I don't buy the "He brought the computer in for repair on the opposite coast from where he lives and never bothered to pick it up" story at all. It just doesn't make sense at all, that he would have the repair done in Delaware instead of California (even though Dad does live there), that he would take it to some strip mall mom and pop store, or that he wouldn't pick it up is not the least bit plausible. I suspect that all the pedophilia and child porn allegations are made up out of whole cloth.
If the highlighted were true the emails would have been on Wikileaks by now. The fact there is this absurd story about how said emails were discovered is one big fat clue: the whole thing is bogus.
 
No, but it sounds sketchy as ****. What's with the lower case "i" in your avatar?


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If the highlighted were true the emails would have been on Wikileaks by now. The fact there is this absurd story about how said emails were discovered is one big fat clue: the whole thing is bogus.


It's obvious you're freaking out LOL. There is no evidence this was anything other than what the repair man reported to the FBI months BEFORE his intermediary contacted Giuliani's attorney Costello.
 
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Something to consider if you think the laptop contains criminal material:

the way the information has come to light, via the Post through Rudy. has made it completely impossible to get any conviction for anything, even if there is clear evidence for criminal wrongdoing.
If you are at all interested in seeing any of the Biden in jail for crimes you think they have committed, you should be furious at Giuliani for giving Hunter and Joe the perfect excuse to have the evidence tossed out.
 
Something to consider if you think the laptop contains criminal material:

the way the information has come to light, via the Post through Rudy. has made it completely impossible to get any conviction for anything, even if there is clear evidence for criminal wrongdoing.
If you are at all interested in seeing any of the Biden in jail for crimes you think they have committed, you should be furious at Giuliani for giving Hunter and Joe the perfect excuse to have the evidence tossed out.

Derp State in action.
 
Yesterday's Daily Beans podcast has an interview with Natasha Bertrand about her story which had the letter from 50 former intelligence agents saying this had the hallmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign. There's some interesting context in there.

Host Allison Gill also says that the rumours she's heard is that this is all leading up to a big revelation. Giuliani has allegedly spent the last few months building a fake paedophile ring in Eastern Europe, complete with fake arrests, that he will tie Biden to.

I have no idea as to Gill's credibility or reliability when it comes to predictions and rumours, although I do know that she's not always 100% on the known facts and she wears her bias on her sleeve, but I thought I'd mention it in case that is how the story develops in the next couple of weeks.
 
If true, this rather puts the lie to the "Hunter left his computers at the repair shop" story:

Hunter Biden emails were reportedly shopped around in Ukraine for $5 million, while Giuliani met with officials and businessmen there last year

The purported Hunter Biden emails shared by The New York Post last week were shopped around in Ukraine for $5 million last year, while Rudy Giuliani met with officials and businessmen there, Time Magazine reported Wednesday.

One of the people Time interviewed said they did not know whether the emails obtained by Giuliani were from the same source that approached them. But when the Post first published the story last week, they were reminded that the same information was introduced to them last year, they told Time.
A second person Time interviewed said he was offered the emails in Kyiv, Ukraine's capital, in mid-September last year. Having declined the offer, he said he was reminded of the incident when the Post published similar material. He also said the person making the offer already had a buyer in mind, and that they wanted to sell it to Trump's Republican allies, according to Time.*
He said their asking price was $5 million, saying, "I walked away from it, because it smelled awful," Time reported.
Giuliani traveled to Europe last year, meeting with a number of officials, businessmen and former law enforcement officers from Ukraine. Despite his claims, there is no evidence of wrongdoing by Joe Biden in Ukraine.

Time said the practice of selling or leaking private communications has become increasingly common in Ukraine over the past year, causing the government to pass a law banning it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/time-hunter-biden-emails-shopped-around-ukraine-last-year-5m-2020-10
 
Something to consider if you think the laptop contains criminal material:

the way the information has come to light, via the Post through Rudy. has made it completely impossible to get any conviction for anything, even if there is clear evidence for criminal wrongdoing.
If you are at all interested in seeing any of the Biden in jail for crimes you think they have committed, you should be furious at Giuliani for giving Hunter and Joe the perfect excuse to have the evidence tossed out.

Yeah the chain of custody is so broken I’d doubt they’d even be allowed to use the laptop as a doorstop in the courtroom.
 
Yeah the chain of custody is so broken I’d doubt they’d even be allowed to use the laptop as a doorstop in the courtroom.

The last thing that the people touting this laptop around want is for it actually to be forensically examined - it'd be laughed out of court.

Much better for it to be out there, unexamined, as a source of lies and innuendo.
 

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