Bill Barr and his October Surprise

The Great Zaganza said:
hiding some truth in a pile of lies is SOP for disinformation operations.

How can you sort out which is which?
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Do you have any evidence that repair guy hid truth in a pile of lies or are you speculating? Do you have evidence this is a "disinformation operation?"

You think the FBI won't be able to find out which is which? You think the metadata can be faked too?
 
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They provided a piece of paper that they said had Biden's signature, with nothing to back that up. Again, the FBI didn't think the laptop was worthwhile so the crafters of this scam had to go searching for marks.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
They provided a piece of paper that they said had Biden's signature, with nothing to back that up. Again, the FBI didn't think the laptop was worthwhile so the crafters of this scam had to go searching for marks.
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The FBI retrieved the hardware with a grand jury subpoena. And the slip with the signature is from the repair guy. I understand this is hard for you, I'm not sure I can help you.
 
My theory is that since it’s a fake invoice they know they’d have to admit that if they tried to authenticate it, so it’s really better for them not to try and hope there’s enough rubes out there. But it looks like there’s not since nobody is talking about it because the story is so ridiculous to just rely on Rudy Giuliani and a screenshot on his phone as proof. Rock and a hard place.
 
Someone is working very, very hard to convince everyone that there is something to this whole Hunter Biden thing. Very hard.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
The FBI retrieved the hardware with a grand jury subpoena. And the slip with the signature is from the repair guy. I understand this is hard for you, I'm not sure I can help you.
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FBI did nothing with it. They could have given it to the Senate when the Senate cleared Hunter Biden of all charges, but didn't. The con failed and the con artists shopped around for new marks.
 
TahiniBinShawarma said:
Do you have any evidence that repair guy hid truth in a pile of lies or are you speculating? Do you have evidence this is a "disinformation operation?"

You think the FBI won't be able to find out which is which? You think the metadata can be faked too?
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you just said the FBI won't or shouldn't comment on ongoing matters.
So don't use them to support any argument of yours.


What we do have is IC reports of ongoing Russian interference efforts.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
FBI did nothing with it. They could have given it to the Senate when the Senate cleared Hunter Biden of all charges, but didn't. The con failed and the con artists shopped around for new marks.
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Do tell how you know the FBI did nothing with it? I haven't seen the FBI comment. What did you hear and from where?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
you just said the FBI won't or shouldn't comment on ongoing matters.
So don't use them to support any argument of yours.


What we do have is IC reports of Russian interference.
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Those statements are not contradictory.

"You think the FBI won't be able to find out which is which?"
"They actually aren't supposed to comment."

There is no contradiction.

You have nothing with regards to the Biden laptop, well, almost nothing, you have speculation.
 
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I've only heard about the laptop since Giuliani ate the bait and sent it to the media, not when the Senate was investigating Biden. The FBI had it then, why wasn't it shown to the Senate? I rather think you are underestimating the impact of this information if it were true.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
I've only heard about the laptop since Giuliani ate the bait and sent it to the media, not when the Senate was investigating Biden. The FBI had it then, why wasn't it shown to the Senate? I rather think you are underestimating the impact of this information if it were true.
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Why would the FBI share info on an open investigation with the Senate? Is there a precedent for this? If so, can you cite it? I know you can't. Do you know how many times we've heard in testimony "I can't comment on an ongoing investigation" from the FBI or JD in front of the Senate?
 
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So now, a few days later, how's this "incriminating laptop" scam going? Like all Trump schemes, backwards and downwards on a sea of easily-disputed lies and laughable yells about fraud the other guy is doing. In short, it's yet another bust. But typical of everything he gets involved in. It would be hilarious if all he was was a failed real estate executive and two-bit reality face. But he sits in the highest office in the USA. So he is taking everyone down with him if it kills him.
 
When the Senate is investigating someone, you don't think they should get information?? The *Senate* investigated and cleared Hunter Biden. The FBI didn't think the laptop was evidence worthy of being presented to the Senate in the investigation of Hunter Biden. I don't know how much clearer this can be made.
 
Norman Alexander said:
So now, a few days later, how's this "incriminating laptop" scam going? Like all Trump schemes, backwards and downwards on a sea of easily-disputed lies and laughable yells about fraud the other guy is doing. In short, it's yet another bust. But typical of everything he gets involved in. It would be hilarious if all he was was a failed real estate executive and two-bit reality face. But he sits in the highest office in the USA. So he is taking everyone down with him if it kills him.
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No, rightwingers have the hook firmly set in their jaws. They can't break loose. I've heard them, they can't imagine how anyone can vote for Biden after hearing about the emails on the laptop. Anyone with a brain after all would see the trail of corruption.
 
Silly Green Monkey said:
When the Senate is investigating someone, you don't think they should get information?? The *Senate* investigated and cleared Hunter Biden. The FBI didn't think the laptop was evidence worthy of being presented to the Senate in the investigation of Hunter Biden. I don't know how much clearer this can be made.
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LOL, well if you don't know, I guess the conversation is over, thankfully. But no, the FBI does not share info of ongoing investigations with anyone, including the Senate.
 
Really, you don't think the Senate investigating someone means that the Federal Bureau of Investigations is going to be involved, given that the Senate is a Federal institution? What did you think the FBI was gathering information FOR? The Senate was investigating Hunter Biden. THE SENATE. They're not a bunch of dusty academics parked in a distant room muttering to themselves, they're the legislative branch of the federal government and they get evidence from the federal bureau of investigation. They're all part of the same thing. The US Senate has cleared Hunter Biden of corruption charges. Sorry if that wasn't the outcome you devoutly prayed for.
 
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