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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

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Hlafordlaes said:
I don't give a flying **** if Jesus himself will be standing by the count. The boxes can be a source of unending conflict, starting with any future claims (wait for them!) that the boxes were not, gee, treated as official.

You want official, you go official. The rest is knuckle-dragging nonsense designed to obfuscate and create confusion.
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See, here's an example. There is no evidence that is the goal of the CA GOP. Remember there is no question CA will vote for Biden. It isn't close and not subject to a serious challenge.

So is there a down ballot issue you think the GOP is going to challenge the votes on because of their own ballot boxes?
 
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Why all the focus on 'it's illegal',
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Because it fairly certainly is. Yes, I get that this is the Trump era, where Republicans openly and brazenly flout the law, but crime should not be normalized.

Skeptic Ginger said:
and why are people outraged about it?
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:confused:

Are you of the crowd that only values things like electoral integrity and security when you think they will benefit "your side?" Similarly, Rule of Law? Should people stop being offended by rank hypocrisy in politics?

Either way, it sure looks like you've seized upon just ONE of the potential concerns - one of the less impactful and less likely ones, really - and are harping on it as if that's all anyone could possibly be concerned about.

Skeptic Ginger said:
And what about Horatius' post explaining how the CA law enforcement should be carried out to remove the boxes?
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That's Horatius' post. If you want to make a response to it, make your response to it, not throw out a generalized LIBERAL DISINFORMATION towards what you seem to admit is actual fact.
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
See, here's an example. There is no evidence that is the goal of the CA GOP. Remember there is no question CA will vote for Biden. It isn't close and not subject to a serious challenge.

So is there a down ballot issue you think the GOP is going to challenge the votes on because of their own ballot boxes?
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I wouldn't be so quick to ascribe innocent motives to the GOP on anything. These ballot boxes could well be a means to nefarious plans. In a state that's assuredly lost to them at least as regards the Presidential vote, there's hardly a downside to sacrificing those collected votes if some 'accident' were to occur and thus give ammunition to a claim of 'uncertainty' in the result.

If we can imagine it, those scumbags will. And worse, because these are desperate times for them.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
See, here's an example. There is no evidence that is the goal of the CA GOP. Remember there is no question CA will vote for Biden. It isn't close and not subject to a serious challenge.

So is there a down ballot issue you think the GOP is going to challenge the votes on because of their own ballot boxes?
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You're right, the California GOP haven't been clear what their motives for installing illegal ballot boxes are. Upthread, I offered a number of possible motives.

That said, if you're of a conspiratorial mindset, the GOP in California isn't going to be pulling up trees so why not sacrifice California (by dumping ballots) to create national doubt.
 
jerrywayne said:
Sen. Sasse gets candid about Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...il&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiospm&stream=top
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Wow, that's powerful stuff.

I don't agree with his politics (and his view on how disastrous democrats would be) but, based purely on this sound clip, he comes across as an honest, thoughtful, passionate politician who I could respect whilst disagreeing with.

So will it be 'fake news' when a Republican Senator says Trump mocks evangelicals behind their backs? Presumably the RINO challenges will come thick and fast, which is ironic as he comes across as very Republican - indeed his criticism of Trump is that he is not being Republican.

Loved the 'TV loving narcissist' bit.
 
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Trump Tweets

Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T
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Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News
SAN FRANCISCO, CA—In a last-ditch effort to stop negative stories about Joe Biden and his family from spreading, Twitter shut down its entire social network Thursday.After seeing account after...
babylonbee.com
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T
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Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News
SAN FRANCISCO, CA—In a last-ditch effort to stop negative stories about Joe Biden and his family from spreading, Twitter shut down its entire social network Thursday.After seeing account after...
babylonbee.com
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:jaw-dropp

Although I fully trust Captain_Swoop, for this one I had to check Twitter to ascertain it was a real tweet.

It is ...

No words ...
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Wow, this has never been done in history. This includes his really bad interview last night. Why is Twitter doing this. Bringing more attention to Sleepy Joe & Big T
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Twitter Shuts Down Entire Network To Slow Spread Of Negative Biden News
SAN FRANCISCO, CA—In a last-ditch effort to stop negative stories about Joe Biden and his family from spreading, Twitter shut down its entire social network Thursday.After seeing account after...
babylonbee.com
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Oh my dear lord. This tweet will disappear soon, I think- the President of the United States just tweeted an article about Twitter shutting down completely, without any apparent awareness that the article is satire, and the Babylon Bee is a satire site, a conservative Onion wannabe. More evidence, if it's needed, that conservatives really don't quite get the concept of humor.
 
Firestone said:
:jaw-dropp

Although I fully trust Captain_Swoop, for this one I had to check Twitter to ascertain it was a real tweet.

It is ...

No words ...
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Yup. Let's see how long before it gets memory-holed.

There's just no getting around it- for all the Trumpers screaming about Biden's mental capacities, Trumps really is just a complete ******* moron.

ETA- still up as of this edit.
 
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turingtest said:
Yup. Let's see how long before it gets memory-holed.

There's just no getting around it- for all the Trumpers screaming about Biden's mental capacities, Trumps really is just a complete ******* moron.

ETA- still up as of this edit.
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It's 4D chess, apparently. :faint:

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Trump Retweeted

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Number one!!!!! I can’t call you my “followers,” because you are so much more than that. You are truly my heroes. #CrookedJoeBiden is trending NUMBER ONE in Politics, and the mainstream media can no longer cover for him. Thank you, patriots.
 
turingtest said:
Wow. That is how Trump has been able to get away with his con for so long- there's just never any shortage of idiots ready to do the heavy lifting of dedicated and uncritical belief that anything he says must be genius.
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It reminds me of when Frank Miller lost his mind and started writing complete rubbish, and some of his fans insisted that he was writing brilliant deliberate parodies of his earlier quality work.
 
turingtest said:
Wow. That is how Trump has been able to get away with his con for so long- there's just never any shortage of idiots ready to do the heavy lifting of dedicated and uncritical belief that anything he says must be genius.
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It reminds me a lot of religious people twisting Abrahamic scripture to try to make it compatible with the 21st century.
 
Re: Senator Sasse criticising Trump...
Ethan Thane Athen said:
Wow, that's powerful stuff.

I don't agree with his politics (and his view on how disastrous democrats would be) but, based purely on this sound clip, he comes across as an honest, thoughtful, passionate politician who I could respect whilst disagreeing with.
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Yes he certainly showed a lot of integrity when he stood up to Trump all those times in the Senate.

No wait... He voted to confirm Trump's nominees along with the rest of the republican senators. And when he actually had a chance to try to remove this blight from office (i.e. the impeachment)? Again, he stood silent.

I guess the question is, why criticize Trump now, since I don't think he is not running for re-election this year. I suspect it is because he thinks Trump will lose and he wants to position himself as an anti-trumper early (perhaps for his own long-term political goals) even though he supports the Stubby Mcbonespurs/Moscow Mitch agenda. That is not being honest or passionate, that is being a crass opportunist.

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Yeah a lot of Republicans are going to start to try and impress us with some version of "Trump? Oh I always hated Trump" now that it no longer matters.

And again hasn't the fact that a lot of Republicans criticize Trump behind closed doors but fold in public not exactly been a secret for a while now?
 
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