Trump and Melania test positive test positive for Covid 19

[Thermal]

Nobody has access to better care. But that doesn't mean he'll avail himself of it. A lot of people are just bad patients, no matter what the quality of their care. Trump is the sort of person who'd eat before a surgery, lie about it, then barf up cheeseburger and breathe it into his lungs while under anesthesia. That's very irritating for the surgeons.

Consider this: Trump also has access to the best hair stylists. How's that working out for him?

Somebody nominate this **** for something. Truth with a capital T

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Would it be asking too much for McConnell to have caught it, too?

McConnell is usually seen with a mask meaning he understands the issue.

I suspect he was smart enough to stay socially distanced from Trump. Maybe he only talked to Trump by phone.

 

[johnny karate]

Nobody has access to better care. But that doesn't mean he'll avail himself of it. A lot of people are just bad patients, no matter what the quality of their care. Trump is the sort of person who'd eat before a surgery, lie about it, then barf up cheeseburger and breathe it into his lungs while under anesthesia. That's very irritating for the surgeons.

Consider this: Trump also has access to the best hair stylists. How's that working out for him?

Considering the physics-defying nature of his hairstyle, I would say improbably well.

 

[lobosrul5]

In general what worries me about this election is that lots of people will vote by mail for the first time, which will result in lots of spoiled ballots, because it's easier to fill out a mail in ballot improperly and get the ballot rejected. Other people will plan on voting by mail, but not get around to doing it in time, and will decide to sit out the election. Other people will plan on voting in person, but at the last minute decide that it isn't safe. Since Democrats fear the virus more than Republicans, all of these things help Trump, and him getting sick makes all of them worse.

Or, some people planning on voting for Trump that didn't fear the virus, now do, and will stay at home?? Just trying to be an optimist.

 

[grunion]

Neither do I, but I'll offer the anxiety produced scenario that I really, really, hope doesn't play out.

My version of this has him emerging from seclusion in 2 weeks announcing that he has been 100% cured in 48 hrs. because they gave him the test vaccine, and announcing plans for distribution of 100 million doses to every White American.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Hope you're right. As far as the distance though, I don't know. If airborne transmission happens then it could travel 4-5 meters. The bit I highlighted says that "social distancing alone is not adequate to prevent indoor spread". I guess we'll find out eventually.

The rate at which it's spreading in America makes me think that the normal recommended precautions are not adequate. Either that or people are ignoring them.

Joe put his mask on as soon as the debate was over. From the looks of it the two podiums were farther than 6 feet away.

His wife and everyone with him wore masks.

Despite all that he and his wife are isolating for 2 weeks.


None of Trump's kids had masks on.


I wonder what Chris Wallace's risk was?

 

[pgwenthold]

Joe put his mask on as soon as the debate was over. From the looks of it the two podiums were farther than 6 feet away.

His wife and everyone with him wore masks.

Despite all that he and his wife are isolating for 2 weeks.

And this is the correct response.

The disease can take time to develop. A negative test is a snapshot in time, and does not tell you about the next day.

Biden needs to be tested daily for the next while.

It looks like the superspreader event was the announcement of the SC justice. There are at least 5 who were there who are now positive.

(including the President of Notre Dame)

 

[Meadmaker]

Or, some people planning on voting for Trump that didn't fear the virus, now do, and will stay at home?? Just trying to be an optimist.

Could happen. Maybe even fairly likely.

The number of people affected, either way, is small, but it's likely to be a close election. I'm more worried about spoiled mail-in ballots.

 

[Sherkeu]

I'm guessing that the first few posts in this thread are typical of the rest. The amount of cheering and ill wishing is unprecedented and it would be hard to find a comparable scenario if I godwinned this thread. Much as we would prefer Tweedledum to Tweedledee, I see no reason to make it so personal.

Has anybody considered that anything that keeps Trump out of circulation would be good for his re-election chances?

Are you suggesting his own party gave him the virus?
Or that it may be something he caught in the course of not being so careful, but that unintentionally saves him from himself? Boosts his chances by restricting his 'performances' in media?
Because Trump loooooves his rallies and would not give them up. Not for a whole 14 days. Never.

*as an aside, I hope Barron is somehow isolated from hearing how people want his dad to die. Poor kid. (I'm sure he has heard bad things, but not in as real a sense as it is now. I always feel for the children, no matter the parent)

 

[timhau]

Even a great chef would struggle to make a decent meal out of dog crap. I assume hair stylists are limited in a similar way.

But their job is easier, they'd only have to make it not look like dog crap.

 

[johnny karate]

Neither do I, but I'll offer the anxiety produced scenario that I really, really, hope doesn't play out.

Consider your average person planning on voting for Trump.

His true believer supporters won't be affected just because he comes down with some flu-like symptoms. Short of actually dying, they'll come up with some excuse why he was right all a long.

There's another group of people, a fairly large group, actually, that hates Trump. However, they feel that any Republican is better than any Democrat. Nothing about this will change their vote.

So, the only people who could be influenced are the undecideds. How many of those are there? I would think these developments would shift some into the Biden camp, but if they were undecided, they probably already thought Trump was doing a lousy job with Covid, or that whatever he was doing didn't really matter and that the disease was going to "run it's course" anyway.

But there's another electoral influence. It could remind people just how dangerous the virus is. If even the President can't be protected, it must be very dangerous to go out and interact with people, like, for instance, in a line at a polling place. And since Democratic voters are more likely to be afraid of the virus than Republican voters, turnout could be further depressed by seeing the President infected.

That's kind of a nightmare scenario, but not unthinkable.

In general what worries me about this election is that lots of people will vote by mail for the first time, which will result in lots of spoiled ballots, because it's easier to fill out a mail in ballot improperly and get the ballot rejected. Other people will plan on voting by mail, but not get around to doing it in time, and will decide to sit out the election. Other people will plan on voting in person, but at the last minute decide that it isn't safe. Since Democrats fear the virus more than Republicans, all of these things help Trump, and him getting sick makes all of them worse.

Perhaps not impossible, but I think it’s improbable.

By and large, the Democrat’s fear of the virus isn’t keeping them locked in their homes. It just drives them to follow safety protocols like mask-wearing and social distancing.

I can’t imagine a single Democrat who would allow their fear of the coronavirus to override their desire to make sure their vote against Trump counted.

 

[alfaniner]

Perhaps this is simply the first step to faking his own death, so he can escape the IRS!

He could just be spending the year dead. For tax purposes.

 

[Checkmite]

The amount of cheering and ill wishing is unprecedented

This is just fantastically false.

 

[johnny karate]

My version of this has him emerging from seclusion in 2 weeks announcing that he has been 100% cured in 48 hrs. because they gave him the test vaccine, and announcing plans for distribution of 100 million doses to every White American.

But then they’ll need to actually follow through on that and the vaccine will actually have to work.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Or, some people planning on voting for Trump that didn't fear the virus, now do, and will stay at home?? Just trying to be an optimist.

The man in the red masque has reached the 7th apartment with the black velvet tapestries.

Wallace comments:

“I've always been disturbed, frankly, that people think the mask is a political issue and wearing the mask or not wearing the mask says something about your politics,” he said, pointing out that health experts call mask-wearing one of the surest means for fighting the virus until a vaccine is ready.

“If there is one lesson from today, it's here is the president of the United States who lives in the biggest bubble that exists on the planet and he got it, through no fault of his own,” Wallace argued. “And so the answer is wear the damn mask.”

The anchor also lashed out at one of Trump’s newest — and most controversial — advisers on the pandemic, Scott Atlas.

Atlas, a doctor who specialized in radiology and neuroradiology, has consistently offered a rosier view of the pandemic more in line with the president’s and has unnerved other Trump health advisers. He told Fox News on Friday that he expected Trump and the first lady to make a “complete, full and rapid recovery” from the virus, a pledge Wallace dismissed even as he noted he hoped Atlas’ prediction comes true.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

But then they’ll need to actually follow through on that and the vaccine will actually have to work.

Vaccines cannot work after an infection has been acquired unless the disease has a long incubation period. Hepatitis B and rabies infections can be prevented if a vaccine is given shortly after inoculation. But not infections with short incubation periods.

 

[Thermal]

Hey, if the Pres is incapacitated temporarily for illness, does the Veep run the show till he recovers? I was putting the moves on a blonde in high school Civics class and missed that particular procedure

 

[pgwenthold]

The man in the red masque has reached the 7th apartment with the black velvet tapestries.

Wallace comments:

********.

He did not get it "through no fault of his own..."

He attended an event with lots of people who were there and not wearing masks.

The guidelines for protecting the spread of the virus are very clear. He and his party did not follow those guidelines. That's their own ******* fault.

Let's stop pissing around with this. Call it for what it is - they ignored the risks, and they suffered consequences.

 

[Monza]

Agreed. It's unseemly. And to the forum members expressing the same: Guys, don't do that. Be better.

No, "Be Best."

 

[wasapi]

The sooner he dies the better. Even three months of a lame duck Pence would be better than Trump laying waste to everything in sight.

Shemp, if you lived closer, I would take you out for a celebratory cocktail.