Watching the debate tonight?

Scopedog said:
Someone else mentioned the allegation of a device in Biden's sleeve and I've seen the videos and pictures and I offered my opinion of what it was. What's unseemly about this to you?
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I didn’t say it was unseemly.
 
Mike! said:
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That to me looks like catering to the audience, rather than insulting anybody. When I was done soundchecking drummers, I always used to say "ooh, you noisy bastard/bitch". Why? Because it was appropriate for the situation, they liked it, and it thereby helped build a rapport.
 
johnny karate said:
I didn’t say it was unseemly.
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Very well. For what it's worth, I didn't say the object was suspicious to me (I thought, perhaps wrongly, that was implied by my proposed explanation of what it was) so maybe that's where a miscommunication occured.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
That to me looks like catering to the audience, rather than insulting anybody. When I was done soundchecking drummers, I always used to say "ooh, you noisy bastard/bitch". Why? Because it was appropriate for the situation, they liked it, and it thereby helped build a rapport.
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I assume that Mike! Is clarifying an opaque poster and not actually foisting this crap. He can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
That to me looks like catering to the audience, rather than insulting anybody. When I was done soundchecking drummers, I always used to say "ooh, you noisy bastard/bitch". Why? Because it was appropriate for the situation, they liked it, and it thereby helped build a rapport.
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It's the military. "Hey **** Face" with a friendly smack on the nuts directed at people who you would literally die for and trust them to die for you is considered Royal Court Protocol there.
 
varwoche said:
I assume that Mike! Is clarifying an opaque poster and not actually foisting this crap. He can correct me if I'm wrong.
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During the debate, Biden denied saying it, but he unambiguously said it, therefore he lied during the debate. I don't really care that he said it (and I'm a former US troop) but I know it would be a very awkward and uncomfortable thing to explain or defend in the debate format so he lied and evaded.
 
Whether Biden was wearing an earpiece or not should not matter. (even though I don't believe it happened). I believe that some stutterers have a device that provides feedback to their ear to help with the condition, but I have no evidence that this was the case in the debate.

JoeMorgue said:
Honestly, and I hate the fact that I notice this because it shouldn't matter, it's because Biden actually had a suit that fit.

You're Trump. You own clothing companies and you know the White House has some of the best tailors and fitters on the planet. How are you still wearing that off the rack, hunched shoulder, bad fitting suit? You look a used car salesman who moonlights as Arby's Manager and doesn't want to admit he's gained weight and his suit doesn't fit anymore.
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The second The PDJT walked out on stage I said "Omg, his hair looks like ******" It was especially noticeable from the profile view, not much of which one got during the actual debate.
 
Scopedog said:
During the debate, Biden denied saying it, but he unambiguously said it, therefore he lied during the debate. I don't really care that he said it (and I'm a former US troop) but I know it would be a very awkward and uncomfortable thing to explain or defend in the debate format so he lied and evaded.
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Seeing as Biden was abruptly interrupted min sentence, we'll never know how he would have completed that thought.
 
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johnny karate said:
I feel obligated to pop in here and remind everyone that Trump’s response when asked to denounce white supremacy was “Proud Boys, stand back and stand by.”

That is all.
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I saw someone still try to claim that he has "disavowed" the Proud Boys. They were like, "He did it, you just haven't heard it."

I was like, ask the Proud Boys what they have heard. The message to them was loud and clear. They already have shirts made up.

This is what I always say about this. Is Trump a raging racist? I don't know, let's ask the KKK what they think. Turns out, they love him.

Is Biden a Marxist? Ask Marxists what they think....(no friggin way)
 
varwoche said:
Seeing as Biden was abruptly interrupted min sentence, we'll never know how he would have completed that thought.
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True, I'll concede that.

Bob001 said:
Context is all, although it still sounds like a stupid thing to say to any crowd.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-troops-stupid-bastards/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...alled-troops-stupid-bastards-jest/3560443001/
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Biden has great judgement (which he says before calling his audience, perhaps affectionately, 'stupid bastards').
 
Mike! said:
The Dems are playing 3D chess while Trump is playing classic Checkers with the single minded motivation of just getting to the far side of the board and shouting, "King me!"
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I'm pretty sure it was JoeMorgue who said something like, "The Dems are playing 3D chess, while Trump is on a checkerboard pulling down his pants and crapping on the squares."

Maybe wasn't Joe, and maybe I didn't read it hear, but doesn't matter.

As I think about it, I think about the South Park episode with Mel Gibson.

 
Of course, it matters not anyway. It's like two kids taking a test, and one has to have a parent-teacher meeting afterwards because he started yelling loudly when the test started and refused to stop, and then tore up the test and ran out of the room after having thrown his chair at the teacher, while the other sits at home wondering if she got question 23 wrong.
 
Having spent far too much time just now in reading this thread, I am pleased that my decision not to watch was the correct one!
I don't think I ever had a thread hit 10 pages in 24 hours before!
 
pgwenthold said:
I'm pretty sure it was JoeMorgue who said something like, "The Dems are playing 3D chess, while Trump is on a checkerboard pulling down his pants and crapping on the squares."
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Yeah that's been my go-to metaphor for a while now.

But to be fair Mike! was responding to me, so I think he gets that.
 
Scopedog said:
True, I'll concede that.

Biden has great judgement (which he says before calling his audience, perhaps affectionately, 'stupid bastards').
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The context, from the links, is that he called for applause for a young officer he had just praised, and after a lukewarm response he called for more. If "stupid bastards" meant anything here, it meant "Show this person you like her."
“Vice President Biden was jokingly encouraging the audience to clap for an airwoman on the stage, and a number of service members can be seen laughing and smiling at the comment. Seconds before, he praised them for 'the incredible sacrifices (they) make for our country,’” Bates told The Daily Beast.
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pgwenthold said:
I saw someone still try to claim that he has "disavowed" the Proud Boys. They were like, "He did it, you just haven't heard it."

I was like, ask the Proud Boys what they have heard. The message to them was loud and clear. They already have shirts made up.

This is what I always say about this. Is Trump a raging racist? I don't know, let's ask the KKK what they think. Turns out, they love him.

Is Biden a Marxist? Ask Marxists what they think....(no friggin way)
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The proud boys are not going to stand down from the violence they are currently doing. Such a weird thing for them to be thrilled about....of course if I liked Trump I would be that inconsistent too.
 
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