Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

[Stacyhs]

Historian KC Johnson tweeted, "'It's hard to imagine a figure less qualified (or appropriate) to launch this sort of initiative than Trump." Elsewhere he offered a critique of the 1619 project. He and others have pointed to a lengthy rebuttal of this project at the World Socialist Web Site, which interviewed a number of distinguished historians. More recently the WSWS wrote, "The Times’ “disappearing,” with a few secret keystrokes, of its central argument, without any explanation or announcement, is a stunning act of intellectual dishonesty and outright fraud."

I have little doubt that Trump's preferred telling of our history would be sanitized and Bowdlerized. It is not that actual American history lies in between him and the 1619 project. I prefer to think of the truth as being the third point in an isosceles triangle.

Interesting article, Chris. I enjoyed reading it.

 

[Norman Alexander]

I have the strongest impression that Trump is just making this one giant piss-take. He is what we would call here a ****-stirrer. Someone who revels in needling and provoking people simply for the enjoyment it gives him making other people being uncomfortable and annoyed and outright angry. It's the massive dick move of someone who has no skills, nothing to offer, no care to engage, and is just the attention-seeking behaviour of a pre-teen lout.

I would REALLY like to see the last week or two of the election process have all the media without exception suddenly go dark on Trump. Nothing mentioned at all. Not a word, not a picture. It would drive him (even further) insane.

 

[Ladewig]

I think it would be hilarious if someone said to DJT, “Sir, this would be a perfect time for you to lead us in a prayer. Unless, of course, you think someone else could do it better.”

Maybe when he was visiting shooting victims in El Paso.

Or just after he threw rolls of paper towels at Puerto Ricans.

 

[jeremyp]

Trump Tweets

We thank God for the blessings we share as citizens of the Greatest Country on earth – and we hope, pray, and work for the day when the people of Cuba can finally reclaim their glorious destiny!

Today, we reaffirm our ironclad solidarity with the Cuban People, and our eternal conviction that FREEDOM will prevail over the sinister forces of COMMUNISM...

...60 years ago, these Cuban patriots formed Brigade 25-06 in a daring effort to liberate their homeland from the communist Castro regime. Today, we declare America’s unwavering commitment to a FREE CUBA!

I thought Trump didn't like losers.

 

[Stacyhs]

Trump Tweets

We thank God for the blessings we share as citizens of the Greatest Country on earth – and we hope, pray, and work for the day when the people of Cuba can finally reclaim their glorious destiny!

Today, we reaffirm our ironclad solidarity with the Cuban People, and our eternal conviction that FREEDOM will prevail over the sinister forces of COMMUNISM...

...60 years ago, these Cuban patriots formed Brigade 25-06 in a daring effort to liberate their homeland from the communist Castro regime. Today, we declare America’s unwavering commitment to a FREE CUBA!

Sure. All words, no action. What do the Cubans in FL think Donnie's going to do? Invade Cuba?

 

[The Don]

I thought Trump didn't like losers.

Silly rabbit ! The Cubans in the US aren't losers, they're winners. They escaped the communist hellhole which is Cuba and live in the greatest country in the history of the world.

The fact that they predominantly vote Republican only reinforces how much of winners they actually are

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Silly rabbit ! The Cubans in the US aren't losers, they're winners. They escaped the communist hellhole which is Cuba and live in the greatest country in the history of the world.

The fact that they predominantly vote Republican only reinforces how much of winners they actually are

They are losers for trusting the US to have their back when they tried to invade Cuba.
The Bay of Pigs Award should be awarded for getting abandoned by the US.

 

[Orphia Nay]

"US President Donald Trump has declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the 3 November election to Democratic rival Joe Biden.

"Mr Trump has also said he expects the election battle to end up before the Supreme Court.

"We're going to have to see what happens," Mr Trump, a Republican, told reporters at the White House when asked whether he would commit to transferring power.""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pjGyO-V0AQ



https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0924/1167124-trump-election/

 

[Aridas]

"US President Donald Trump has declined to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses the 3 November election to Democratic rival Joe Biden.

Shocking news! No one could have predicted that!

Yeah, though, Trump's telegraphed that he intends to try to cause serious problems should he lose since well before he was elected. It's just outright worse, now that he's had time to f up the systems that we have in place to minimize such damage much more directly.

"there won't be a transfer, frankly. There'll be a continuation." is rather more than just declining to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, though.

 

[Pixel42]

there won't be a transfer, frankly. There'll be a continuation." is rather more than just declining to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, though.

He's claiming that the only way he could possibly get less votes than Biden is if the Democrats cheat. He can't countenance the idea that more people might actually, genuinely, be intending to vote for Biden than for him. Remember how he blamed Hilary Clinton getting more votes than him last time on cheating? It's the same thing.

 

[Andy_Ross]

From the BBC

US election: Trump won't commit to peaceful transfer of power

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54274115

US President Donald Trump has refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses November's election.

"Well, we'll have to see what happens,You know that."

Trump also said he believed the result could end up in the Supreme Court

"I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster."
"Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."


Mitt Romney tweeted on Wednesday: "Fundamental to democracy is the peaceful transition of power; without that, there is Belarus.
Any suggestion that a president might not respect this Constitutional guarantee is both unthinkable and unacceptable."

Biden said Mr Trump's comments on the transition of power were "irrational".
His campaign said it was prepared for any "shenanigans" from Trump.
"the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House".


Trump commented on the Supreme court.

"I think this will end up in the Supreme Court, and I think it's very important that we have nine justices," the president said.
I think it's better if you go before the election, because I think this scam that the Democrats are pulling, it's a scam, the scam will be before the United States Supreme Court."

 

[Mojo]

"Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

I thought he’d sworn to uphold the constitution.

 

[Aridas]

He's claiming that the only way he could possibly get less votes than Biden is if the Democrats cheat. He can't countenance the idea that more people might actually, genuinely, be intending to vote for Biden than for him. Remember how he blamed Hilary Clinton getting more votes than him last time on cheating? It's the same thing.

Personally, again, I disagree. I think that such both is more part of a cynical and dishonest strategy than an actual inability to comprehend - and is far better to treat as strategy, regardless, than treating it as an actual inability, for pretty much every practical purpose.

 

[Chris_Halkides]

Politicians and specific curricular decisions

Interesting article, Chris. I enjoyed reading it.

Snopes has an article about a plaque at one Mr. Trump's golf courses (in Virginia). It commemorates a battle that did not take place. KC Johnson (whose politics might be described as centrist) also tweeted, "To me, K-12 history should be shaped primarily by educators. Trump (& other pols) have no business making specific curricular decisions..."

 

[Worm]

The fundamentalists don't think Trump is a real Xian anyway. They regard him as a useful heathen.

I don't see how Trump could possibly be a Xian. That would require him to acknowledge the existence of an entity more perfect and powerful than himself.

 

[newyorkguy]

..."Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."

Unbelievable. Anybody left out there that thinks it's not possible that even trump would try and contest the election result in order to justify refusing to leave office?

 

[Mumbles]

Interesting article, Chris. I enjoyed reading it.

There are still issues with the critique, however. Of courser, the first is the matter of what, exactly, they mean by "our founding". Whose? They don't mean that it's when the Constitution was enacted, obviously. They could quite reasonably mean what set us on the path we've taken - and certainly the desire to continue enslaving others was one monetary reason for the Revolution. - I've noticed that people tend to avoid the noticeable accumulation of wealth and political power that rebellion immediately handed to the Founding Fathers - the Boston Tea Party wasn't just a bunch of dudes chilling at brunch, only to have the redcoats show up and steal their brie and mimosas, after all.

(I've noted, myself, that the first Africans in the US were kept as indentured servants, rather than as chattel slaves, so I also disagree with some of the claims. Still, if by "our" they mean black Americans, it's supported far better than 1492 - which is what Dolt 45 intends to teach. I do note, regarding his "1776 program" - it's just like a white supremacist to outright steal a black person's idea and use it to oppress.)

 

[Armitage72]

I don't see how Trump could possibly be a Xian. That would require him to acknowledge the existence of an entity more perfect and powerful than himself.

"And a voice said to me, 'Sir, if you had been responsible for creating the universe, it would have been done in only three days, instead of the six I needed, it would work much better, and you wouldn't have needed to rest for a day afterward. Nobody knows more about design and construction that you or has more energy than you.'"

 

[carlosy]

I thought he’d sworn to uphold the constitution.

He does!
He upholds his very own constitution:

1st amendment: Lie

2nd amendment: Lie even more

3rd amendment: Go back to 1st amendment

 

[phiwum]

The fundamentalists don't think Trump is a real Xian anyway. They regard him as a useful heathen.

Not true in my experience.

My evangelical family members regard Trump as chosen by God, like Saul. I don't recall Saul being a total dick and incompetent after the conversion, but you know, God works in mysterious ways.

In any case, it's God who chose him, not the evangelicals, and who are we to question God's judgment?