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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

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It gets weirder.

Donald Trump calls Pope Francis “disgraceful” after he says Trump is not a Christian.

Even funnier, from the same Twitter feed, a Fox News contributor states that Pope Francis needs to ask Trump’s forgiveness for implying Trump is not a Christian.
Then there is the Fox shill Greg Gutfeld claiming the "activist Pope" wants a TV show on MSNBC.

Projection by proxy? :p

My next thought was Oh Gawd! When Trump loses he's bound to become a horrible TV news presence.
 
Without going too far down a probably off-topic rabbit hole, I think one of the reasons 1984 has reverberated in the social conscious is because even though it has strong anti-communist, anti-authoritative, anti-fascist themes, it was written in such a way as to serve as a valid cautionary tale for misuse of government systems of many kinds.

I can see The Handmaid's Tale being perceived in a similar light: banned because it had an anti-Trump theme. :p
 
Florida currently controlled by Republicans, and they are known to act... unethically. I certainly wouldn't put it passed them to try to start some legal trouble against Bloomberg (even if any criminal charges would be thrown out by the courts).

What they'll probably do is try to get a court to put a stay on the funds until the legality of the process is established. That would not allow the felons to vote and would certainly push any decision till after the election, by which time nobody will give a damn.
 
If we are going that far let’s take one more step and say things like “I don’t have all the facts yet, but I heard that Gaetz is being investigated for a series of murders. People are claiming that LE agencies are investigating his links to a series of murders -but that claim could be completely false. Right now, nothing has been released to the media so we cannot judge the validity of any evidence that has been collected; for all we know, the evidence was never collected. At this point this assertion is all rumor and innuendo, perhaps even a slur campaign from an opponent. But a lot of people are saying that. It is not known if Gaetz has hired a lawyer to defend himself from these allegations of violence.
Shall we see if we can get that going on Reddit? :p
 
Without going too far down a probably off-topic rabbit hole, I think one of the reasons 1984 has reverberated in the social conscious is because even though it has strong anti-communist, anti-authoritative, anti-fascist themes, it was written in such a way as to serve as a valid cautionary tale for misuse of government systems of many kinds.

Are you sure it's not about promoting liberal values of communism?
 
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Trump is too stupid to realize that this is just his own MAGA version of what he's accusing the 1619 Project of doing: conservative propaganda vs liberal propaganda.

That's a bit of false equivalency, don't you think? The difference between things like teaching tolerance vs teaching white supremacy?


Yep.

"Biden endorses new math textbook titled 2+2=4"

"Trump endorses new math textbook titled 2+2=A Potato."

Doesn't mean both sides are the same, equally tolerant, or anything of that nature.

"Me being equally passionate about being wrong and you being equally passionate about being right means we're both the same" has been tentpole of arguments from the Right for a while now.


Notice my use of the word "accusing". I didn't say it was equivalent. As a former history teacher I am well aware of the whitewashing of history we have taught in our schools. As I've said before, Trump wants the Disney version of Pocahontas, not the Trail of Tears, or the story of broken treaty after broken treaty taught.
 
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Last night, Trump said of a Somali member of Congress, "she’s telling us how to run our country." He praised the good genes of whites days ago. It's not an "allegation." He's racist!

And even an equal opportunity racist:

""After phone calls with Jewish lawmakers, Trump has muttered that Jews 'are only in it for themselves' and 'stick together' in an ethnic allegiance that exceeds other loyalties," White House officials told @gregpmiller "

https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1308826242326593536?s=19
 
"Republicans have threatened to oust Speaker Nancy Pelosi if she tries to impeach Donald Trump for a second time.

Now House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy says he would introduce a motion to remove Pelosi if she acted.

Any “motion to vacate” the speaker’s chair would need Mr McCarthy and Republicans to secure a majority of House members to oust Ms Pelosi.

Republicans currently hold only 198 seats, versus 232 for Democrats.

“The president is supposed to move forward and they will. The Senate is supposed to take the action and they will, it’s their constitutional right and they are following through,” the California Republican told reporters on Wednesday.

“And I will make you this one promise, listening to the Speaker on television this weekend, if she tries to move for an impeachment based upon the president following the Constitution, I think there will be a move on the floor to no longer have the question of her being Speaker.

“She may think she has a quiver, we do too.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-donald-trump-again/ar-BB19m3pS?ocid=msedgdhp
 
After reading that last sentence, I sat here and tried to think of standards that Trump has applied inconsistently. I couldn't but only because I couldn't think of *any* standards he has. I think "it makes me feel good" or "it will hurt someone that hurt me" or similar thoughts cannot be called standards in the usual sense of the word. So I have to disagree. Trump is so very reactive in the moment to his surroundings and those with him; this immediacy prevents him from using any standard by which to act.

This. Trump is an extreme present hedonist. This is from Dr. Philip Zimbardo, PhD and Rosemary Sword's excerpt from Dr. Bandy Lee's book:
An extreme present hedonist will say or do anything at any time for purposes of self-aggrandizement and to shield himself from previous (usually negatively perceived) activities, with no thought of the future or the effect of his actions. Coupled with a measure of paranoia, which is the norm, extreme present hedonism is the most unpredictable and perilous time perspective due to its “action” component. Here’s how it works:

The extreme present hedonist’s impulsive thought leads to an impulsive action that can cause him to dig in his heels when confronted with the consequences of that action. If the person is in a position of power, then others scramble either to deny or to find ways to back up the original impulsive action. In normal, day-to-day life, this impulsiveness leads to misunderstandings, lying, and toxic relationships. In the case of Donald Trump, an impulsive thought may unleash a stream of tweets or verbal remarks (the action), which then spur others to try to fulfill, or deny, his thoughtless action.
 
This. Trump is an extreme present hedonist. This is from Dr. Philip Zimbardo, PhD and Rosemary Sword's excerpt from Dr. Bandy Lee's book:


Oh, he's still just growing up.
In the first three years of his term, I’ve collected 1,300 instances when a Trump staffer, subordinate or ally — in other words, someone with a rooting interest in the success of Trump’s presidency — nonetheless described him the way most of us might describe a petulant 2-year-old. Trump offers the greatest example of pervasive developmental delay in American political history.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outl...3f5c04-7435-11ea-85cb-8670579b863d_story.html
 

This is also covered in Zimbardo and Sword's excerpt:

As just mentioned, present hedonists live and act in the moment, frequently with little to no thought of the future, or the consequences of their actions. Most children and teenagers are present hedonists. Each day, they build on past experiences, but their concept of the future is still under development. People suffering from arrested emotional development, usually caused by a childhood trauma, are also present hedonists. Without therapy, the ability to mature emotionally beyond the age of trauma is difficult to impossible. When they reach adulthood, they may be able to hide their lack of emotional maturity for periods, but then, when in a stressful situation, they revert to behaving the emotional age they were when they were first traumatized. Depending on the degree to which the childhood trauma affected the person suffering from arrested emotional development, they may find that, over time, their present-hedonistic time perspective has morphed into extreme present hedonism.

Without proper individual assessment, we can only make a best guess as to whether Donald Trump suffers from arrested emotional development, which may or may not be a factor in his extreme present hedonism. Yet, with access to the extensive amount of print and video media exposing his bullying behavior, his immature remarks about sex, and his childlike need for constant attention, we can speculate that the traumatizing event was when he was sent away to military school at the age of thirteen. According to one of his biographers, Michael D’Antonio, Trump “was essentially banished from the family home. He hadn’t known anything but living with his family in a luxurious setting, and all of a sudden he’s sent away” (Schwartzman and Miller 2016). This would help explain his pubescent default setting when confronted by others.

However, his niece, Mary, also believes a traumatic event left Donald emotionally stunted and think the traumatic event was the illness of his mother when he was IIRC about 4. After she almost bled to death after a hysterectomy, she was never really well again and withdrew into herself leaving the raising of Donald to his elder sister, Maryanne.
 
"Republicans have threatened to oust Speaker Nancy Pelosi if she tries to impeach Donald Trump for a second time.

Now House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy says he would introduce a motion to remove Pelosi if she acted.

Any “motion to vacate” the speaker’s chair would need Mr McCarthy and Republicans to secure a majority of House members to oust Ms Pelosi.

Republicans currently hold only 198 seats, versus 232 for Democrats.

“The president is supposed to move forward and they will. The Senate is supposed to take the action and they will, it’s their constitutional right and they are following through,” the California Republican told reporters on Wednesday.

“And I will make you this one promise, listening to the Speaker on television this weekend, if she tries to move for an impeachment based upon the president following the Constitution, I think there will be a move on the floor to no longer have the question of her being Speaker.

“She may think she has a quiver, we do too.”

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...-donald-trump-again/ar-BB19m3pS?ocid=msedgdhp
Talk about a completely empty threat. If he had that much backing, there could be no vote to impeach.
 
However, his niece, Mary, also believes a traumatic event left Donald emotionally stunted and think the traumatic event was the illness of his mother when he was IIRC about 4. After she almost bled to death after a hysterectomy, she was never really well again and withdrew into herself leaving the raising of Donald to his elder sister, Maryanne.
All due respect to her expertise, but Mary is really reaching with that crap.

Donald was a spoiled rich kid for whom there were no real risks and no real consequences. His father continued treating him as such well into his adult life, bailing him out whenever Donald was in need, teaching him that he could **** up and **** people over and not have to worry about anything coming back on him. Donald spent all that time telling anyone who'd listen what a genius he was, while consistently failing at everything he tried to do. His image was everything, the facts meant nothing.

I don't buy for a second any explanation that lays the blame for his various pathologies on his mother dying when he was 4, except perhaps in the sense that she might have been a good influence on him.
 
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I don't buy for a second any explanation that lays the blame for his various pathologies on his mother dying when he was 4, except perhaps in the sense that she might have been a good influence on him.


His mother didn't die then. She lived to be 88. But if she was sick when he was a child and then became distant and rejecting, that would go a long way to explaining why someone would be desperate for attention and adulation.

And apparently she lived long enough to express disappointment in her boy:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...d-psychology-macleod-fred-trump-a8037181.html
 
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