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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25

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Donald "J for Jenius" Trump.

The obese, ugly, delusional, grifting, orange, lying **** who talked and BS'd his way into the highest office in the land.... is talking and BSing his way out of the highest office in the land. All anyone had to do was step back and let the dumb **** hang himself with his own noose.

Unfortunately, I have zero faith in 50+% of eligible Americans to be smart enough to vote the lying murderer out in November because... triggering liberals.

"In a democracy, people get the leader they deserve." ~ Joseph De Maistre
 
I suggest we on this forum nominate Barack Obama again for a Nobel. And Joe Biden for good measure.

Oh and this point: The nomination of Trump by the Norwegian right-wing politician is probably invalid. The criteria for a Nobel nominator for the Peace Prize includes "Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of states", of which he is not one.
 
I suggest we on this forum nominate Barack Obama again for a Nobel. And Joe Biden for good measure.

Oh and this point: The nomination of Trump by the Norwegian right-wing politician is probably invalid. The criteria for a Nobel nominator for the Peace Prize includes "Members of national assemblies and national governments (cabinet members/ministers) of sovereign states as well as current heads of states", of which he is not one.

He's an elected member of the Storting, Norway's national assembly.
 
Christopher Hitchens said it about Woodward in 1996.

You'll have to evaluate for yourself the credibility of the accusation and perhaps decide for yourself if access journalism is a problem.

In any case, I have not made any claims about Woodward's reporting accuracy. I certainly can't fault him for getting Trump to speak on the record, especially for getting him to contradict his own lies. Although Trump is obviously, abysmally stupid, Woodward's ability to get him talking is still admirable.
”Get him talking?” That hardly takes any more skill than the ability to dangle a microphone somewhere in his general vicinity.

So simple a caveman could do it.
 
”Get him talking?” That hardly takes any more skill than the ability to dangle a microphone somewhere in his general vicinity.

So simple a caveman could do it.

I’m not sure he needs to see a microphone.
 
He's an elected member of the Storting, Norway's national assembly.
Yes, but he is not a cabinet member or minister. This criteria specifically rules out parliamentary members who are not part of the ruling cabal, whatever form that takes. Otherwise you would be getting literally hundreds of thousands of nominations every year from the many hundred governing bodies around the world.
 
I’m not sure he needs to see a microphone.
Fake Mike?

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Mebbe.

We keeping having incidents around here of black and mixed families in upscale middle class neighborhoods finding anonymous messages in their mailboxes and elsewhere with contents which, while not overtly threatening, were at the very least disturbing. Impetus seems to be things like BLM yard signs, etc. Or none at all.

It isn't clear to me that being "a little better educated" is enough to prevent racist attitudes and behavior.

*Definitely* not.

I won't bother with stories. But education, in general, is clearly not a cure.

Yeah, it's really not.

To poke further at that, though... Why smart people are more likely to believe fake news

But other stories may fit with your political identity far more tightly. And for these particularly emotive claims, intelligence and education may actually make you more susceptible to fake news, through a process called “motivated reasoning”. Consider the “birther” theory that Barack Obama was not born in the US. This has been debunked time and time again, but it became highly ingrained in many people’s political ideology. And greater brainpower did not prevent them from believing the story; indeed, it actually increased their credulity. A study by Ashley Jardina at Duke University in North Carolina, for instance, surveyed the views of the more conservative white Republicans – the kind of people who might have found the former president most alienating. It found that beliefs in the birther theory were strongest among the participants with the greatest political knowledge.

A similar pattern could be seen with the beliefs that Obama was a Muslim, and the claims that his healthcare reforms would lead to “death panels” that decided who lived or died. To make matters worse, more educated participants also seemed less likely to update their beliefs after they had been debunked; instead, they actually became more certain they were right. Somehow, their greater knowledge simply allowed them to dismiss the new information and harden their attitudes.

Given that headline, though, I think that it's also prudent to add this one, with the note that it's a bit more British. Why more highly educated people are less into conspiracy theories.

I dare to say that US right-wing propaganda is particularly toxic, regardless.
 
Yeah, it's really not.

To poke further at that, though... Why smart people are more likely to believe fake news



Given that headline, though, I think that it's also prudent to add this one, with the note that it's a bit more British. Why more highly educated people are less into conspiracy theories.

I dare to say that US right-wing propaganda is particularly toxic, regardless.


It found that beliefs in the birther theory were strongest among the participants with the greatest political knowledge.

A study by Ashley Jardina at Duke University in North Carolina, for instance, surveyed the views of the more conservative white Republicans – the kind of people who might have found the former president most alienating. It found that beliefs in the birther theory were strongest among the participants with the greatest political knowledge.


I completely disagree with Jardina.
More 'conservative' does not mean more intelligent nor does it necessarily mean they have the 'greatest political knowledge', especially if they're getting almost all of that 'knowledge' from very biased sources like FOX, Breitbart, and other right wing echo chambers.

... more educated participants also seemed less likely to update their beliefs after they had been debunked; instead, they actually became more certain they were right. Somehow, their greater knowledge simply allowed them to dismiss the new information and harden their attitudes.

Of course they do because they don't believe their beliefs have been debunked.
 
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