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Maybe he was saving it from September-October to increase the effect on the American election?
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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 25
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Maybe he was saving it from September-October to increase the effect on the American election?
Babbylonian
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Let’s be real here. He saved it to increase the effect on his book sales.
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Right now the attack ads seem to focus on his attacks on military servicemen, but IMO, the way Trump deliberately let the pandemic run free, especially in blue states, for political reasons, should be the #1 thing for his opponents to use against him. It may even top every single other vile and idiotic things he has said and done.
Use the contradicting statements from Trump. Use the quote from Kushner that fighting the pandemic "wouldn't make sense politically". Use the way Trump has taken little action, and even outright sabotaged the US' ability to fight the virus, both before and after there even was a pandemic beginning to spread, and both before and after it reached the States.
I always knew that Trump, if faced with a real disaster like, say, the Cuban missile crisis, would not be up to the task. In fact this was my #1 nightmare scenario with Trump since November 2016. Covid proved me right, although I couldn't in my wildest dreams imagine he would botch it this badly.
That might be true for a lot of authors. But Bob Woodward doesn't need to do anything to boost his sales. One reason for not releasing tapes prematurely is to be able to keep talking to Trump and to other officials, getting more information that ultimately serves us. A lot of doors would have slammed shut the minute a tape was released.
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Bob Woodward is a sensationalist journalist. That’s not to say that he’s all bad, but he doesn’t do these books for idealistic reasons.
Frankly, I think one of the reasons he’s releasing recordings is that his credibility has at times been reasonably questioned.
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Since he insisted it be so and the dozens-to-hundreds of people legally and ethically obligated to stop him from doing so all quietly capitulated.
If nobody is willing to defend words on a page, then they are just words on a page.
Safe-Keeper
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Frankly, downplaying a pandemic, knowing it will kill people (there's no nicer way to put it), is the kind of thing I expect some colonial-era European or American regime to do to some backwater country they care nothing about.
It reminds me of those tapes in the Burns-Novick documentary on Viet Nam, where one of the hawks in the presidential race (I forgot who it was), talked about how he was working to convince South Viet Nam to walk out of peace negotiations with the north, not for their own good, but because a peace treaty in 'Nam would ruin his chances of winning the presidential election back home.
So again, the kind of thing I expect from decades or centuries back, and in other parts of the world. It's surreal that Trump was/is doing it in 2020, and to his own country.
It reminds me of those tapes in the Burns-Novick documentary on Viet Nam, where one of the hawks in the presidential race (I forgot who it was), talked about how he was working to convince South Viet Nam to walk out of peace negotiations with the north, not for their own good, but because a peace treaty in 'Nam would ruin his chances of winning the presidential election back home.
So again, the kind of thing I expect from decades or centuries back, and in other parts of the world. It's surreal that Trump was/is doing it in 2020, and to his own country.
Mojo
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Nixon, wasn't it?
Cain
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Who knows how many people would have died if we had a full-on panic. This requires steady, calm, assured leadership. People freaked out in Germany and Western Europe, and look at how many died. Those countries are now ravaged by civil unrest. It's worse than the Bowling Green Massacre.
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The first part was practically boilerplate. But the finish. Now that’s writing.
Of course it was. Imagine how different America would have been over the past half-century if Hubert Humphrey had won the election.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/yes-nixon-scuttled-the-vietnam-peace-talks-107623
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I remember Bob's first Trump book "fear" was, IMO, rather tame in the criticism of Trump, mostly as someone in way over his head.
I hope Woodward is not longer giving Trump a mulligan on this one.
I hope Woodward is not longer giving Trump a mulligan on this one.
What is that supposed to mean? Going back to Watergate, Woodward has demonstrated a unique ability to uncover and report facts that the powerful would conceal. That's what a journalist is supposed to do. One of the great failings of modern journalism is that too many journalists see themselves as stenographers or scorekeepers, rather than advocates for truth.
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It doesn't take much of anything to get nominated. There's a huuuuuge list of people that can nominate. Being nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize isn't any more impressive than your mother telling you that you're a handsome boy.
Stacyhs
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It's been canceled by the divisiveness and hatred he's fomented within his own country.
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I'm sure Lincoln Project will have some interesting ads coming from this.
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