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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 24

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
It's perhaps worth pointing out the same thing that AOC did - the basketball thing isn't a boycott. The players aren't customers, they're workers. It's a strike.
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More specifically, a wildcat strike. Players were striking in violation of their own union contract's non-strike clause.

You love to see it.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Republicans are popular among Catholics, which is a prevalent religion among hispanics. Don't underestimate the religious angle here.
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When I was young, Catholics were a very strong demographic for Democrats. Things change.

Back then, though, all politicians were Christian, and the really big issues for Christians were just getting started. Abortion, gay marriage, transgender wasn't yet a thing.

Catholics were, generally, anti school prayer. Everyone knew they would be Protestant prayers. Moreover, Catholics were predominantly in minority groups, like Irish or Italians. Well, in reality, those groups had almost ceased to exist as a separate group by then, but when I was young there was still some sort of historical connections.

Now, however, it's true, that Hispanics are often not just Catholic, but practicing, believing, Catholics, and so many are attracted to the modern Republican Party.
 
Segnosaur said:
Maybe its a bad political decision, maybe its not.

Here's the thing... the democrats can't really do anything to stop Trump from firing inspector generals...regardless of how many hearings they have on it. Senate republicans will simply do everything they can to protect him. And will voters care? Well, hard to say... ~40% of the voters have stuck with trump through all his abuses of power, so one more abuse isn't going to make a difference.

Maybe pointing out the changes to the rose garden might have an effect... Older voters who may remember JFK might actually be negatively affected by seeing one of the legacies of previous presidents discarded like that.
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If horror upon horrors Trump is reelected, bet they take out Michelle's vege garden.
 
TragicMonkey said:
I doubt Trump could identify a vegetable, in the ground or on a plate.
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Sure he could. Probably The catsup on his hamberders (and steak) comes from red things on a plant. He might have seen a picture on a label. The pickles come from green things on a plant, and he could try to guess based on the shape. He might have trouble with the onions though.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Republicans are popular among Catholics, which is a prevalent religion among hispanics. Don't underestimate the religious angle here.
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Most definitely. There is a strong contingent of hispanic Trump supporters in my neck of the woods which is normally a Democratic stronghold. Not one of our local leaders is Republican and hasn't been for a very long time, if ever. One of the big things for them is that Trump is "pro-life, pro-family values" big Catholic values.

Now, please don't ask me why they think Trump best represents those values. And please don't ask me why they won't vote for a Republican in local leadership. I just know that they are having parades in support of him every weekend because, to them, he does.
 
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Ha Ha!

From: CBC
Vancouver's Trump International Hotel is closing permanently....

Its unfortunate for the workers, but its still nice when Trump gets embarrassed.

Sadly, Trump doesn't actually lose out on anything financial... he didn't own the hotel; it was just a licensing deal. But maybe other companies will realize that sticking the Trump logo on things is not a good way to drum up business.
 
xjx388 said:
Most definitely. There is a strong contingent of hispanic Trump supporters in my neck of the woods which is normally a Democratic stronghold. Not one of our local leaders is Republican and hasn't been for a very long time, if ever. One of the big things for them is that Trump is "pro-life, pro-family values" big Catholic values.

Now, please don't ask me why they think Trump best represents those values. And please don't ask me why they won't vote for a Republican in local leadership. I just know that they are having parades in support of him every weekend because, to them, he does.
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I can never make up my mind on this. It's possible that they think Trump supports those values, but to me that seems completely irrational. On the other hand, I could see it as a case of "Republicans support these values, and Trump is a Republican, therefore I support Trump because he's a Republican". There could also be a bit of relative comparison involved too. Even if they don't think Trump supports their values as much as they would like, they might believe that he supports them more than Democrats would.
 
Segnosaur said:
Ha Ha!

From: CBC
Vancouver's Trump International Hotel is closing permanently....

Its unfortunate for the workers, but its still nice when Trump gets embarrassed.

Sadly, Trump doesn't actually lose out on anything financial... he didn't own the hotel; it was just a licensing deal.
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I mentioned something about this. One of the Trump family members was complaining that Hunter Biden was "making money off the Biden name."

While Trumpettes literally sell their name.
 
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Ivanka Trump: Donald Trump did not come to Washington to win praise from the beltway elites, he came to Washington to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
 
Emily's Cat said:
Even if they don't think Trump supports their values as much as they would like, they might believe that he supports them more than Democrats would.
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As a conservative, I find the GOP pretty disappointing. Most of them don't seem to have much more understanding of, or commitment to, conservative principles than Donald Trump does. And Trump's grasp of conservatism seems to begin and end with selfish and ignorant commitment to laissez-faire capitalism.

So here's why I don't switch parties. The Democrats are just as ignorant, incompetent, and corrupt as the Republicans. If it were just that, I might consider switching. However, when the Democrats do actually manage to pull their heads out of their asses long enough to actually do something, it's according to progressive principles I do not share. Not only that, but they hate me for having conservative principles - principles they either do not understand, or actively misrepresent. Because they hate them and hate me for having them.

Most elections, I just vote establishment Republican because - see above - the Democrats somehow manage to be even worse. But there's this once in a lifetime opportunity for me to give the GOP establishment the finger, without voting for the Democrat establishment. How am I not going to take that opportunity?

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One thing I find fascinating about how all this has played out, is the number of establishment "conservatives" who, instead of getting the message and being better conservatives, decided they'd rather be Democrats instead. I was not expecting that at all. But seeing it happen has been a revelation that almost makes the whole exercise worthwhile all by itself.
 
Trump Retweeted

Team Trump (Text VOTE to 88022)
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Ivanka Trump: "America doesn’t need another empty vessel who will do whatever the media and the fringe of his party demands. Now more than ever, America needs four more years of a Warrior in the White House."
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

Team Trump (Text VOTE to 88022)
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Ivanka Trump: "America doesn’t need another empty vessel who will do whatever the media and the fringe of his party demands. Now more than ever, America needs four more years of a Warrior in the White House."
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Warrior . . . bwahahahahah!
 
Sure, the convention was a **** show. That's ok -- cultural learnings occured. I have better appreciation of what it's like to live in North Korea.
 
theprestige said:
One thing I find fascinating about how all this has played out, is the number of establishment "conservatives" who, instead of getting the message and being better conservatives, decided they'd rather be Democrats instead. I was not expecting that at all. But seeing it happen has been a revelation that almost makes the whole exercise worthwhile all by itself.
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Same thing happened a few decades ago (I don't remember exactly when) where some cohort of Democrats essentially defected and got branded as neocons.

Although I'm not at all helpful here, because that 50,000 foot snippet is about all I can recall right now.

I've never been particularly liberal or conservative, and never had much allegiance to either party. I've alternated votes over time, and more recently end up voting 3rd party, largely out of sheer detest of the party system. It's not that I'm lax on any particular topic, it's more than there are aspects that I value on either side. Socially, I'm fairly liberal, and have always been a supporter of civil liberty and the preservation of our rights. But I also like guns, and I dislike uncontrolled spending. So... yeah, neither party works well for me.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Retweeted

Team Trump (Text VOTE to 88022)
@TeamTrump
Ivanka Trump: "America doesn’t need another empty vessel who will do whatever the media and the fringe of his party demands. Now more than ever, America needs four more years of a Warrior in the White House."
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She’s right. America needs an empty vessel who will do whatever Putin and the top 0.01% of the wealthiest Americans demand.

Warrior?

ETA
I just got it. President Trump likes the name Baron/Barron so much because he grew up reading stories about Baron Munchausen.
 
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