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Cont: The Trump Presidency: Part 24

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Firestone said:
Watched that. The lies are amazing but of course expected.

I am surprised by the crowd in that video. No social distancing whatsoever. :confused:
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I'd guess that every single member of that crowd has been repeatedly tested for Covid-19 over an extended period and they have possibly been asked to isolate for a period before the rally. They are probably very low risk.
 
The Don said:
I'd guess that every single member of that crowd has been repeatedly tested for Covid-19 over an extended period and they have possibly been asked to isolate for a period before the rally. They are probably very low risk.
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Of course. That must be it.
 
The Don said:
I'd guess that every single member of that crowd has been repeatedly tested for Covid-19 over an extended period and they have possibly been asked to isolate for a period before the rally. They are probably very low risk.
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You are probably sarcastic, but I looked it up anyway. It's beyond amazing:

Asked about the testing policy, a White House spokesperson said the Trump campaign has been responsible for planning the live event and determining which guests, if any, must be tested beforehand.

“Guests who come in close proximity to the president will be tested, while others will be encouraged to wear masks,” the official said.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/27/trump-acceptance-speech-no-testing-403578
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As Steve said, Freedums!
 
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Firestone said:
You are probably sarcastic, but I looked it up anyway. It's beyond amazing:
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I wasn't being sarcastic so the idea that not all present would have been tested is (yet) another clear indication of the half-assedness, laziness and incompetence of the Trump Administration.
 
Firestone said:
I am surprised by the crowd in that video. No social distancing whatsoever. :confused:
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I'm surprised that you're surprised by this. "The Pandemic is no big thing" has been the theme of their entire pandemic response. At this point I'd only be surprised by them pivoting towards actually take it seriously.
 
The White House has bragged that they're assembling a dossier on reporters who write stories that Trump doesn't like.

The White House said in a story published Thursday that it was compiling a "very large" dossier on a Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post reporter and others who it said are a "disgrace to journalism and the American people."

In a statement, White House spokesperson Judd Deere accused The Washington Post of "blatantly interfering with the business relationships of the Trump Organization" and demanded "it must stop."

"Please be advised that we are building up a very large 'dossier' on the many false David Fahrenthold and others stories as they are a disgrace to journalism and the American people," Deere said.
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I'm sure they're just fans and keeping a scrapbook of stories as a memento. There's that whole First Amendment, after all. Right?
 
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What Trump did to the White House last night was despicable. I wish someone had tried to get an injunction to keep that thing and his nits who grew into lice from violating the Hatch Act. The GSA and the Park Service should sue to recoup any costs paid with tax-payer funds for the event.
 
The Don said:
An interesting fact check from the BBC regarding the amount of Mexican border wall built during President Trump's first term:



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53922706

If I read that correctly, there are 5 miles of the border which now has a wall that didn't nearly four years ago. Whoop-de-doo :rolleyes:

Of course then there's the other issue that AFAIK, Mexico hasn't paid for any of it.
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Steve said:
Yeah, but America is much greater now than it was four years ago. That must count for something.
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If it’s getting greater at a rate of more than 5 miles every 4 years, then there’s more unwalled border now than there was when he started.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I made it through essentially the whole acceptance speech*.

Immediately afterwards, Rachel Maddow did a rapid fire fact check on it. Likely not all inclusive, but hit the main lies pretty effectively.

https://youtu.be/9kpiTtvppKQ



*I walked the dogs about 3/4 of the way through. I have a feeling I didn’t miss much.
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The dogs probably produced more that was worthwhile than Trump did.
 
Horatius said:
I'm surprised that you're surprised by this. "The Pandemic is no big thing" has been the theme of their entire pandemic response. At this point I'd only be surprised by them pivoting towards actually take it seriously.
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Indeed, what was I even thinking. :)

But they'll pivot when Trump announces the miraculous vaccine in October. Then suddenly the pandemic will become a PLAGUE like none before, that only Trump could save the people from.
 
Solitaire said:
I just found an article on that subject in the Boston Review.
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Great article, looks to be fact-based and science based, has unexpected conclusions based on data, great explanatory power in its thesis.

TLDR: People are deluded within their own fact-free bubble by traditional right-wing media. Also, we're ******.
 
Sherkeu said:
Segnosaur said:
Many people (even dedicated fans) don't bother watching things like that. And if they are a MAGAchud? Even if they did like to watch after-game shows, they would probably turn it off once the player started talking politics.
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Not every fan cares enough to read up on player opinions. They care about the game itself, and things that directly impact the game.

It brings attention to the situation.

If they decided to keep their protests to after-game shows and magazine articles, it would likely be forgotten rather quickly.

I remember seeing a news segment with Colin Kaepernick and some right-wing minor news flunky. The same thing was suggest of him... "Why kneel during the anthem instead of doing interviews"... his response was along the lines of "I did that before and nobody paid attention... now that I'm kneeling during the anthem people are talking about the situation".
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In times of great strife people need some outlet. If those people want to quit to cause 'awareness' even after years of constant 'awareness', then I think the sport will suffer.

Im my fathers boyhood village, the Nazis were in charge, but the skating and sailing races continued- no delay, no boycott. The people needed it so that just for a brief time, they could be transported back to normal times. the show must go on, as they say.

Who will be that valve for our society?
No sports
No movies
No plays
No concerts
No weddings
No parties
No amusement parks
No indoor dining
No travel......

Many are isolated without family near.
Do you think they will appreciate hearing for the umpteenth time that they need to be 'aware" of racism? Is there someone who has not heard it yet who would have some epiphany of change because basketball is cancelled??
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Us?
 
Again I'm going to write a book called "Ways Black People are Allowed to Protest" by "Whitey McWhitePerson" and it will just be 10 chapters entitled "No not that way" and blank pages.
 
Sherkeu said:
If they want publicity, it seems logical to be in public. After game interviews, magazine articles, whatever.
A boycott seems to do the opposite. It is a negative. It uplifts, informs and inspires no one. I think it is a big turd of a virtue signal. Good intentions, but out of touch and misguided.
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That's a cheap and easy way to dismiss people that gets bandied about these days. We could apply it to any words/actions we don't like. It's a cynical, vacuous expression.
 
Do something symbolic - dismissed as virtue signaling.
Do something in the system - the system is already rigged against them is the whole point.
Do something outside the system - be dismissed as violent criminals.
 
I dismiss people as violent criminals when they do violent crimes. I don't see how that could help fight the system, especially if the violence is usually aimed at nearby cars.
The issue here is, again, generalization. One side says 'they are all peaceful protestors' and the other sides says 'they are all violent criminals'. The fact is, there are both groups, and an individual is rarely part of both. The first have to be praised, and protected by police. The later should be condemned, and end up in jail.
 
varwoche said:
That's a cheap and easy way to dismiss people that gets bandied about these days. We could apply it to any words/actions we don't like. It's a cynical, vacuous expression.
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Whatever you want to call it is ok by me. I'm not always up-to-date on the current 'right speak' as I do not normally see social media interactions except second hand.

The intentions of the walk out are certainly good (I think). I believe these players are genuine in their actions.

I just do not think it will be very effective. I can actually see it having the opposite effect.

That is my opinion and does not expand to anyone or any group outside of my own brain. I may also change my mind, as happens when I get new info or some new perspective.
I'm still allowed to do that, right?
 
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