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Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

Maxwell will live through the trial.

The Federal employees and guards at her facility saw how the DoJ, FBI, and other government agencies have come down on the guys who screwed up with Epstein. Internal Affairs is already a nightmare, but then having an army of investigators crawling up your colon is enough to make the folks guarding Maxwell to quadruple-check everything.
 
No bet needed. I will be so elated if she escapes misfortune before trial that I willingly, and gladly, donate $100 to a charity of your choice.

Should she end up in front of a judge breathing please donate to:

https://protect.org/

The National Association to Protect Children is founded on the belief that our first and most sacred obligation as parents, citizens, and members of the human species is the protection of children.

The National Association to Protect Children was established in 2004 and is recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit. Contributions may be tax-deductible. The National Association to Protect Children does not take government funding of any kind.


They're the real deal. I'm a charter member and have been in since pretty much day one.
 
Maxwell will live through the trial.

The Federal employees and guards at her facility saw how the DoJ, FBI, and other government agencies have come down on the guys who screwed up with Epstein. Internal Affairs is already a nightmare, but then having an army of investigators crawling up your colon is enough to make the folks guarding Maxwell to quadruple-check everything.

As far as I am aware, there have been no repercussions for anyone involved in the Epstein mishandling. Short of bluster of course.
 
Should she end up in front of a judge breathing please donate to:

https://protect.org/

The National Association to Protect Children is founded on the belief that our first and most sacred obligation as parents, citizens, and members of the human species is the protection of children.

The National Association to Protect Children was established in 2004 and is recognized by the IRS as a 501(c)(3) nonprofit. Contributions may be tax-deductible. The National Association to Protect Children does not take government funding of any kind.


They're the real deal. I'm a charter member and have been in since pretty much day one.

Deal. I'll do it whether she be dead or alive.

I was not previously familiar with this organization and appreciate you bringing it to my attention.
 
As far as I am aware, there have been no repercussions for anyone involved in the Epstein mishandling. Short of bluster of course.

There are at least three active investigations. These things take time because, unlike Conspiracy Theory Land there are real-world consequences for the accused, and for those doing the investigations if they get something wrong. The hardest one to get past will be the one initiated by the judge overseeing the case.

Investigations take time if they are done right.
 
Yes, this is exactly my concern. We know there are over 100 victims and so far we have... a dead Jeffrey and the soon to be departed Ms. Maxwell. No one else has even been charged with a crime.

No-one else has been charged with a crime yet.
This is still very much an ongoing investigation.

As far as I am aware, there have been no repercussions for anyone involved in the Epstein mishandling. Short of bluster of course.

There are at least three active investigations. These things take time because, unlike Conspiracy Theory Land there are real-world consequences for the accused, and for those doing the investigations if they get something wrong. The hardest one to get past will be the one initiated by the judge overseeing the case.

Investigations take time if they are done right.

There does rather seem to be a pattern here.
whatsthedreamnow: Your concerns spring from an expectation that justice happens instantly, and when it doesn't, that looks suspicious to you.
Life doesn't work that way, and this is especially true for the justice system, of any country. Trials and investigations take years. It is a mistake to fill that intervening time with conspiratorial thinking.
 
Cross-posting from the other thread, just in case anyone may be interested. If you don't apple, google can find lots of other links.

If anyone is interested in the hype around child trafficking, there are a couple of great episodes on this subject at the “you’re wrong about” podcast.

Nov 25, 2019 “human trafficking”

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/youre-wrong-about/id1380008439?i=1000465289965


Aug 10, 2020 “wayfair and human trafficking statistics”

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/youre-wrong-about/id1380008439?i=1000487756926

Short version - the statistics about “child trafficking rings” are mostly crap and overblown alarmism, akin to the satanic panic nonsense of the 1980’s.
 
Also, Chief Justice Roberts is apparently being blackmailed - something about his adopted children - by his appearance in the flight logs for Epstein's plane. That may be why Obamacare passed.



The above is the longest that I ever listened to Ann Vandersteel. She is ... not smart.
 
What do CTists always say?

"We demand a new investigation!"

And on those few times they get one not much changes, and then they claim it was rigged.

Facts and the truth are a distant second with all CTists.
 
There does rather seem to be a pattern here.
whatsthedreamnow: Your concerns spring from an expectation that justice happens instantly, and when it doesn't, that looks suspicious to you.
Life doesn't work that way, and this is especially true for the justice system, of any country. Trials and investigations take years. It is a mistake to fill that intervening time with conspiratorial thinking.

Instantly? Epstein pled guilty in 2008 to the absurdly reduced charges that led to his mildly inconveniencing 11 months. How many years are enough?

Life doesn't work what way? The way it seems to work is that, with enough money, you can delay justice for years, longer. And when your day gets close, you make the problem go away. With plausible deniability of course.
 
Instantly? Epstein pled guilty in 2008 to the absurdly reduced charges that led to his mildly inconveniencing 11 months. How many years are enough?

Life doesn't work what way? The way it seems to work is that, with enough money, you can delay justice for years, longer. And when your day gets close, you make the problem go away. With plausible deniability of course.

You left out the key factor of the 2008 conviction and plea deal.

It took place in Palm Beach, Florida. Google the phrase "Florida - Miscarriage of Justice" and you'll get the London phone book. The state is great at prosecuting innocent people and poor people, but the wealthy usually skate. That's one of the reasons they live there.
 
You left out the key factor of the 2008 conviction and plea deal.

It took place in Palm Beach, Florida. Google the phrase "Florida - Miscarriage of Justice" and you'll get the London phone book. The state is great at prosecuting innocent people and poor people, but the wealthy usually skate. That's one of the reasons they live there.

I understand that perfectly well. Let's not forget the U.S. Attorney who personally ensured Epstein's pass was later appointed as Secretary of Labor by a President who repeatedly wished well the grand madame of child sex abuse. I stand by my statement that none of these people will be held accountable and Ms. Maxwell's expiration date is coming soon.
 
There really is a thread to discuss the legal stuff. One on Maxwell too.

The one is supposed to be about satanism.
 

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