Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?

There are world drug rings because some people will pay a lot of money for drugs.

There are world arms rings because some people will pay a lot of money for weapons.

There are world sex trafficking rings because some people will pay a lot of money for sex.

There are world illicit art and antiquities rings because some people will pay a lot of money for stolen art and antiquities.

What's the business model for a world satanic ring? What do clients pay for? Actual favors from actual Satan could be worth a lot, if Satan (a) existed and (b) performed favors. Otherwise it's a freaky church service.
 
Wait...wait...what??!!?!?

YOU are the one who started this thread with the title "Did Epstein run a World Satanic Ring?". Maybe YOU should have defined it, 54 pages and a number of years ago. Given that you have said, "It's called a debate", perhaps YOU could set the terms?

So, what is this "World Satanic Ring" of which you speak?
Wait...what? Jack by the Hedge has demonstrated in the recent past a not inconsiderable talent for writing spy-thriller plots so it is somewhat astonishing he has no idea how a 'world satanic ring' might work, given his hitherto impressive powers of imagination. Since people seem pusillanimous about this entire topic, let me have a go at describing how a world satanic ring might operate (and some might say very successfully, so far).

Step number one: start a satanic cult. This can be based on every day observation of how popular religions operate. So you set up a 'temple', with an 'altar' and perhaps some images of how you imagine satan might look. This could be based on the ancient Egyptian/Babylon/Canaan pre-Christian/Judean/Islamic gods. So you might erect a statue or painting of same above the altar orr behind it. Next you need some kind of ceremony to (a) swear allegiance to this god, and (b) invoke the god's presence. This could be in imitation of the sacrament wherein red wine and bread is partaken to represent the imbibing of the body - the blood and flesh - of Christ. To invoke the presence of your chosen deity, perhaps have trance-like chants, incense for aroma, darkened lighting, with atmospheric candles to get into a receptive mood. Borrowing from ancient scriptures, you really need a 'high priest (or priestess)' to guide the followers of your cult. For people to understand this is a priest you need to dress him in priestly robes and maybe tall hats to signify authority. These deities need appeasing: if they can bring you wealth and prosperity, they can also wreak havoc and destruction if similarly angered or insulted b their followers. So this is where the concept of 'sacrifice' comes in, another ancient idea; 'tithes' meaning you contribute one-tenth of your wealth - whether in the form of money or what you grow on your land - to the deity via the temple or the priest. A 'satanic' sacrifice based on ancient religions could be high priestesses - aka temple prostitutes' offering sex on the altar (and history suggests this did happen). The earliest sacrifice mentioned in the bible is God telling Abraham in a dream it was time to sacrifice his first-born, Isaac as a burnt offering to demonstrate his faith. The story has God letting him off the hook at the last minute as Abraham was about to plunge a dagger into Isaac but it was the continued custom to give all first born livestock, and first crops, 'in sacrifice' to God. So, for a satanist, sacrificing babies and illicit sex as a religious rite is nothing unremarkable or not an extension of logic as to what happens in religious rites.

How to make it global. Throw in lavish food and drink. Parties wherein people get to mix with celebrities, such as Mick Jagger and Naomi Campbell. Attend lectures by Hawking and Pinker. Throw in lots of attractive young adults who have been made available for rumpy-pumpy, because, let's face it most of the world's rich and famous are getting on in years as people don't inherit until quite late in life. So it is not uncommon to see loads off middle-aged men at night clubs and discos mingling with sweet pretty young things, with transactional arrangements made by mutual consent. Except there is a legal age limit. Very young adult become 'jail bait'. Because of the illegality, you have to do what homosexual prowling men used to have to do, and that is, invent slang words to hide the nature of your activity. These slang words commonly take the form of words for food, So, for example, a young boy might be referred to as 'a chicken'; and we see in the Epstein files lots of food references about pizza, cheese and steak 'running out'. We see examples of requests asking people to bring back a 'baby or two' from Africa.

How to keep them hooked. Intelligence agencies get wind of these wild parties and hook ups with world famous celebrities so they hire key figures to film and record the goings on. Encourage people to text, to put everything in writing. Offer generous loans. For example, you have befriended members of the British Royal Family, via the daughter of another operative, who had a near state burial in a sovereign country other than his country of birth or the UK of which he was a citizen. She is a friend of a Prince and introduces you to him, a very useful contact as he is also a randy git who is delighted with the young attractive jailbait (by USA legal standards) he is supplied with via a third party. So fast forward to when the pimp at the centre of providing shall we say, 'entertainment' is arrested, mostly under house arrest for a few months circa 2008. In the meantime the wife of the prince, who appears to have romantc feelings towards the 'satanic' pimp is desperately broke. She writes to the pimp asking for money, as emails show. even though she can't now have the plausible denial of knowing of his, er, perverted tendencies, and not having the power of hindsight that these emails would ever be released.

Here's the thing - because we are all now shaking our heads saying 'nothing satanic about scrounging money' - in 2008, this same BRF member who has shown zero empathy or sympathy to the pimp's victims,
was caught filming children in Turkish and Romanian orphanages and actually threatened with prosecution. She claims it was a 'humanitarian project' but now perhaps one can understand that some are saying Epstein was trading in worldwide importing of babies and children...and nobody seems to know what happened to them.
 
There are world drug rings because some people will pay a lot of money for drugs.

There are world arms rings because some people will pay a lot of money for weapons.

There are world sex trafficking rings because some people will pay a lot of money for sex.

There are world illicit art and antiquities rings because some people will pay a lot of money for stolen art and antiquities.

What's the business model for a world satanic ring? What do clients pay for? Actual favors from actual Satan could be worth a lot, if Satan (a) existed and (b) performed favors. Otherwise it's a freaky church service.

if you could monetize Satanism, Facebook would have done it already.
 
Problem 1: Citation needed.
It is well recorded: Jack Dee, Anton LeVey Alistair Crowley. Even Dennis Wheatley - although we might all laugh at the Devil Rides Out - seems to have have had an interest in this guff. The Beatles even put Crowley on the album cover of Sergeant Pepper. That's not to say it works, it shows it happens. As for Epstein, this rabid conspiracy theorist illustrates Epstein's 'satanism' (although one doubts he took it seriously) as epitomised by his island temple:

 
Ah. Your citiation for Epstein having started a satanic cult is a "rabid conspiracy theorist" whom you don't believe was serious.

Well that didn't take long.
 
Step number one: start a satanic cult. This can be based on every day observation of how popular religions operate. So you set up a 'temple', with an 'altar' and perhaps some images of how you imagine satan might look. This could be based on the ancient Egyptian/Babylon/Canaan pre-Christian/Judean/Islamic gods. So you might erect a statue or painting of same above the altar orr behind it. Next you need some kind of ceremony to (a) swear allegiance to this god, and (b) invoke the god's presence. This could be in imitation of the sacrament wherein red wine and bread is partaken to represent the imbibing of the body - the blood and flesh - of Christ. To invoke the presence of your chosen deity, perhaps have trance-like chants, incense for aroma, darkened lighting, with atmospheric candles to get into a receptive mood. Borrowing from ancient scriptures, you really need a 'high priest (or priestess)' to guide the followers of your cult. For people to understand this is a priest you need to dress him in priestly robes and maybe tall hats to signify authority. These deities need appeasing: if they can bring you wealth and prosperity, they can also wreak havoc and destruction if similarly angered or insulted b their followers. So this is where the concept of 'sacrifice' comes in, another ancient idea; 'tithes' meaning you contribute one-tenth of your wealth - whether in the form of money or what you grow on your land - to the deity via the temple or the priest. A 'satanic' sacrifice based on ancient religions could be high priestesses - aka temple prostitutes' offering sex on the altar (and history suggests this did happen). The earliest sacrifice mentioned in the bible is God telling Abraham in a dream it was time to sacrifice his first-born, Isaac as a burnt offering to demonstrate his faith. The story has God letting him off the hook at the last minute as Abraham was about to plunge a dagger into Isaac but it was the continued custom to give all first born livestock, and first crops, 'in sacrifice' to God. So, for a satanist, sacrificing babies and illicit sex as a religious rite is nothing unremarkable or not an extension of logic as to what happens in religious rites.

Practicing religion doesn't become illegal just because you buy your temple decor from Hot Topic or give your deity a name that's scary according to a different religion. Illegal acts (such as murder or underage sex) are illegal regardless. That's why sane investigators and prosecutors tend to focus on the actual crimes in evidence rather than go on Dan Brown adventures searching for hidden pentagrams.

By the way, God telling Abraham to sacrifice Isaac is far from the first mention of sacrifice in the Bible. Cain killed Abel over a dispute about whose sacrifices YHWH was favoring.
 
We told you Epstein purposely designed his temple to look like Mamluk architecture. During the Mamluk era girls were bought and sold as concubine slaves for the elite as I found shown in the Epstein email below.


The Federalist architectural style was predominant in the United States between the War for Independence and about 1930. During the Federalist era girls were bought and sold as concubine slaves for the elite. Oh noes, those columns in front of my bank branch symbolize pederasty!
 
Jeffrey Epstein came from a blue-collar family in Brooklyn, NY. Dad was a gardener. He had no teaching qualifications, let alone in mathematics, yet William Barr, Snr., secured him a teaching job at a decent school...teaching maths. I don't know why Epstein is referred to as 'a financier' or 'a billionaire', as you do, because he also has zero qualifications or licence to practise being a broker or financial adviser. In his official career he has just one client, and that is Les Wexner. Wexner is the person who handed Epstein his NY mansion, and in addition, his Power of Attorney. Imagine being of sound mind, health and hardly old aged, with substantial wealth and simply handing over PoA to some semi-literate smuck who can't hold down a job. All the scientists who ever met him and spoken publicly have said they were shocked at the shallow level of his knowledge. Try again, Axxman300, as to how there is nothing at all unusual about the astonishing influence of this dude.

howard lutnick called him the greatest blackmailer ever in an interview where he lied about how well he knew epstein and as we later found out hid his business dealings, and from what i've seen it seems pretty likely that howard lutnick was the kind of guy that epstein would have a bunch of blackmail on. les wexner too, pretty blackmailable kind of guy.
 
Wait...what? Jack by the Hedge has demonstrated in the recent past a not inconsiderable talent for writing spy-thriller plots so it is somewhat astonishing he has no idea how a 'world satanic ring' might work, given his hitherto impressive powers of imagination. Since people seem pusillanimous about this entire topic, let me have a go at describing how a world satanic ring might operate (and some might say very successfully, so far).

Step number one: start a satanic cult. This can be based on every day observation of how popular religions operate. So you set up a 'temple', with an 'altar' and perhaps some images of how you imagine satan might look. This could be based on the ancient Egyptian/Babylon/Canaan pre-Christian/Judean/Islamic gods. So you might erect a statue or painting of same above the altar orr behind it. Next you need some kind of ceremony to (a) swear allegiance to this god, and (b) invoke the god's presence. This could be in imitation of the sacrament wherein red wine and bread is partaken to represent the imbibing of the body - the blood and flesh - of Christ. To invoke the presence of your chosen deity, perhaps have trance-like chants, incense for aroma, darkened lighting, with atmospheric candles to get into a receptive mood. Borrowing from ancient scriptures, you really need a 'high priest (or priestess)' to guide the followers of your cult. For people to understand this is a priest you need to dress him in priestly robes and maybe tall hats to signify authority. These deities need appeasing: if they can bring you wealth and prosperity, they can also wreak havoc and destruction if similarly angered or insulted b their followers. So this is where the concept of 'sacrifice' comes in, another ancient idea; 'tithes' meaning you contribute one-tenth of your wealth - whether in the form of money or what you grow on your land - to the deity via the temple or the priest. A 'satanic' sacrifice based on ancient religions could be high priestesses - aka temple prostitutes' offering sex on the altar (and history suggests this did happen). The earliest sacrifice mentioned in the bible is God telling Abraham in a dream it was time to sacrifice his first-born, Isaac as a burnt offering to demonstrate his faith. The story has God letting him off the hook at the last minute as Abraham was about to plunge a dagger into Isaac but it was the continued custom to give all first born livestock, and first crops, 'in sacrifice' to God. So, for a satanist, sacrificing babies and illicit sex as a religious rite is nothing unremarkable or not an extension of logic as to what happens in religious rites.

How to make it global. Throw in lavish food and drink. Parties wherein people get to mix with celebrities, such as Mick Jagger and Naomi Campbell. Attend lectures by Hawking and Pinker. Throw in lots of attractive young adults who have been made available for rumpy-pumpy, because, let's face it most of the world's rich and famous are getting on in years as people don't inherit until quite late in life. So it is not uncommon to see loads off middle-aged men at night clubs and discos mingling with sweet pretty young things, with transactional arrangements made by mutual consent. Except there is a legal age limit. Very young adult become 'jail bait'. Because of the illegality, you have to do what homosexual prowling men used to have to do, and that is, invent slang words to hide the nature of your activity. These slang words commonly take the form of words for food, So, for example, a young boy might be referred to as 'a chicken'; and we see in the Epstein files lots of food references about pizza, cheese and steak 'running out'. We see examples of requests asking people to bring back a 'baby or two' from Africa.

How to keep them hooked. Intelligence agencies get wind of these wild parties and hook ups with world famous celebrities so they hire key figures to film and record the goings on. Encourage people to text, to put everything in writing. Offer generous loans. For example, you have befriended members of the British Royal Family, via the daughter of another operative, who had a near state burial in a sovereign country other than his country of birth or the UK of which he was a citizen. She is a friend of a Prince and introduces you to him, a very useful contact as he is also a randy git who is delighted with the young attractive jailbait (by USA legal standards) he is supplied with via a third party. So fast forward to when the pimp at the centre of providing shall we say, 'entertainment' is arrested, mostly under house arrest for a few months circa 2008. In the meantime the wife of the prince, who appears to have romantc feelings towards the 'satanic' pimp is desperately broke. She writes to the pimp asking for money, as emails show. even though she can't now have the plausible denial of knowing of his, er, perverted tendencies, and not having the power of hindsight that these emails would ever be released.

Here's the thing - because we are all now shaking our heads saying 'nothing satanic about scrounging money' - in 2008, this same BRF member who has shown zero empathy or sympathy to the pimp's victims,
was caught filming children in Turkish and Romanian orphanages and actually threatened with prosecution. She claims it was a 'humanitarian project' but now perhaps one can understand that some are saying Epstein was trading in worldwide importing of babies and children...and nobody seems to know what happened to them.
There was some kind of Evil Kneivel jump in there between having a teeny bopper seance and Mick Jagger rolling up to your front door.

Also, the bottom of your post is on blackout, starting after 'pimp asking for money, as emails show'.
 
keep in mind that the released documents are chosen To Not contain descriptions of sexual violence perpetrated by Epstein and others. We do know that some of his "pals" liked their kids to dress up as fairytale characters. Making it satanic is not a big leap from there.

Remember that in the Entrance to his house was a giant upskirt picture of a 6-year old that was so disturbing that the FBI had to classify it deep.
 
One might suggest that of course the Epstein thing was not a Satanic cult, because Satan doesn't exist and Satanic cults tend to be pretty lame and harmless by comparison. To call Epstein's stuff Satanic imputes seriousness to Satanic nonsense, and trivializes the depth of his depravity and harm.
 
howard lutnick called him the greatest blackmailer ever in an interview where he lied about how well he knew epstein and as we later found out hid his business dealings, and from what i've seen it seems pretty likely that howard lutnick was the kind of guy that epstein would have a bunch of blackmail on. les wexner too, pretty blackmailable kind of guy.
I would opine that Howard Lutnick or Les Wexner calling Epstein a blackmailer is akin to the pot calling the kettle black. Wexner owned Victoria's Secrets lingerie company and provided - ahem - auditions of models who then paraded at fashion shows and competitions in front of a drooling leering Donald Trump, not to mention the seedy world of escorts. The fiction the Epstein acted alone shows how successful AG Pam Bondi and co have been in suppressing the full story. Bondi was the Florida prosecutor who gave a whole bunch of guys a free pass.
 
One might suggest that of course the Epstein thing was not a Satanic cult, because Satan doesn't exist and Satanic cults tend to be pretty lame and harmless by comparison. To call Epstein's stuff Satanic imputes seriousness to Satanic nonsense, and trivializes the depth of his depravity and harm.
It could be argued that religious rites disinhibit people, so say you attend a party and you imbibe a drug-spiked drink and end up in an orgy, it doesn't work to say this wasn't really a rite of some sort, just because it happened on a makeshift altar which you 'don't believe in'. Rather like someone taking four wives because their religion says they can. Doesn't mean that religion is 'real' any more than a bunch of degenerates doing degenerate stuff proves anything, either. In the end, it's all just rationalisation.
 
How do you mean? I can see it.
You have your screen on light mode. For those of us using dark mode, the text is black after the pimp part except for the links.

Here's a screenshot:
 

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The Federalist architectural style was predominant in the United States between the War for Independence and about 1930. During the Federalist era girls were bought and sold as concubine slaves for the elite. Oh noes, those columns in front of my bank branch symbolize pederasty!
Yabbut, does it indicate a global satanist murder cult as well?
 
You have your screen on light mode. For those of us using dark mode, the text is black after the pimp part except for the links.

Here's a screenshot:
Ah: what happened is that I put the link in blue - to indicate there is a link - and then reverted it back to what I thought was 'auto' mode; here it is again, hopefully showing properly:

In the meantime the wife of the prince, who appears to have romantc feelings towards the 'satanic' pimp is desperately broke. She writes to the pimp asking for money, as emails show. even though she can't now have the plausible denial of knowing of his, er, perverted tendencies, and not having the power of hindsight that these emails would ever be released.

Here's the thing - because we are all now shaking our heads saying 'nothing satanic about scrounging money' - in 2008, this same BRF member who has shown zero empathy or sympathy to the pimp's victims, was caught filming children in Turkish and Romanian orphanages and actually threatened with prosecution. She claims it was a 'humanitarian project' but now perhaps one can understand that some are saying Epstein was trading in worldwide importing of babies and children...and nobody seems to know what happened to them.
 

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